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the 90%+ chinese people who would love to send me their merch (since the merch is trash for them anyway) can message me here. thank you~` 
i would likely to give them the home their deserved here since its hard to purchase any klei merch :love_heart:

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On 4/17/2026 at 3:13 AM, Your Chester said:
Your behavior is utterly disgraceful. Chinese buyers make up the largest group purchasing your merchandise. Nobody would buy your merch without the skin CDKeys—everyone buys them only for the skin codes.
 
The merch costs 218RMB in China, and 95% of buyers are only after the skin, which is easily worth at least 178RMB. People spent 218RMB to support you by buying Wilson and Maxwell, happily redeemed the codes to use the skins, and then you officially sold the same skins in the store for just 18RMB at an absurdly low price.
 
Are you taking consumers for fools?
 
Let me be clear: anyone who buys your merch now is a fool. I will never support your merchandise again. You’ve gotten too comfortable in your bubble; you deserve to be criticized.

I agree with this. Now that it's clear Klei will also eventually resurrect skins from other merch shops rather than just their own at some point, there's just no more reason to buy merch for skins ever again. Klei has gotten very greedy with their merch in the last 2-3 years - constant releases of new merch items in different shops and even a whole kickstarter with tons and tons of exclusive skins that costs hundreds of dollars is a very big ask. Where even is the point shelling out so much money for skins if they're going to resell this stuff later for a fraction of the price, irrespective of MSRP, and even give them away for free through Klei ambassadors? Frankly, it's disgusting how supposedly the crown jewels of skin collections can just be distributed like it's every day dirt, they're actually way easier to attain than some of the lower rarity skins, despite the fact they're meant to be the second highest rarity in the game after proof of purchase skins. If the skins were appropriately priced, taking the original MSRP into account, and weren't distributed for free in such large quantities, there'd be zero issues with the resurrection system, but as it stands now, there's no reason to reward this behavior, as it apparently doesn't make a difference to Klei whether a skin was attached to $60 merch or $10 merch, it all costs the same once resurrected.

You would think that if Klei refuses to make the prices fairer for the OG merch buyers, they would at least do something else for them, such as giving them discounts for future releases in DST, giving proof of purchase skins extra visual function or effect, giving them the resurrected skin copies for free so those don't harrass them in the unowned category in the in-game shop etc. but nope, nothing. Klei just encourages skipping out on buying merch by making you buy a resurrected skin in the shop or redeeming it through a streamer giveaway later anyways (even if you own the original proof of purchase skins) by doing this. Let me show you an example with the newly resurrected youtooz skins - Klei really expects me to buy this a second time despite already owning the higher rarity variants just so I can have a squeaky clean in-game shop again? Please, now that's just disrespectful at this point

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When anyone here feels useless, remember this post, because it won't change their opinion about buying it, nor about Klei, which provides accessibility to other players and greatly helps the ambassadors.

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5 hours ago, Kaioh said:

I agree with this. Now that it's clear Klei will also eventually resurrect skins from other merch shops rather than just their own at some point, there's just no more reason to buy merch for skins ever again. 

Okay that's nice and all, but you're supposed to buy merch for the merch, that's why they make merch, so people would buy their merch that they make for people who want cool merch of the game they love.

If you do not want to buy the merch, simply do not buy the merch.

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As someone who bought the Maxwell and Wickerbottom Youtooz I'm VERY happy that more people get to enjoy their awesome skins for much less than what I've paid for. Turning something that's crazy expensive to more affordable for everyone in the globe is a good thing for everyone, everyone get to enjoy and have fun with the skins! I don't think I'm a fool for spending more for it because at the end of the day I still have an amazing figure decorating my home and it's a lovely reminder of how much I love this game. I would feel like a fool if I was so selfish to the point I hoped people shouldnt be able to afford the same things I do just so I could feel better than them. 

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21 hours ago, Nikki Darks said:

Okay that's nice and all, but you're supposed to buy merch for the merch, that's why they make merch, so people would buy their merch that they make for people who want cool merch of the game they love.

If you do not want to buy the merch, simply do not buy the merch.

Right, that is why Klei decided merch will have exclusive digital items that cannot be obtained any other way, thus inevitably getting demand on merch from completely unrelated group of people that only want digital items. Even going so far as having a Klei official come out and confirm said skins are limited to buying merch.

On 9/4/2016 at 2:19 AM, JoeW said:

I understand the completionist idea, for sure. But, if we were to balance our items around that idea, it would be just way too limiting. You can still be a completionist if you like, but you have to accept that there will be some items you won't be able to get. There will definitely be items that are limited under certain conditions, like the tragic torch, beta firepit, pax items and proof of purchase items or even just stuff that is only available during special times, like... Halloween. I mean, just for example, of course. *ahem*

The apologism is hilarious

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4 hours ago, Kaioh said:

Right, that is why Klei decided merch will have exclusive digital items that cannot be obtained any other way, thus inevitably getting demand on merch from completely unrelated group of people that only want digital items. Even going so far as having a Klei official come out and confirm said skins are limited to buying merch.

The apologism is hilarious

Again my guy, nobody is forcing you to buy merch you don't want? I'll assume you're an adult with adult money, so spend responsibly. Idk what kinda response you were hoping to get, but man... Don't buy merch if you don't want merch? Spend responsibly??? 

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47 minutes ago, Nikki Darks said:

Again my guy, nobody is forcing you to buy merch you don't want? I'll assume you're an adult with adult money, so spend responsibly. Idk what kinda response you were hoping to get, but man... Don't buy merch if you don't want merch? Spend responsibly??? 

My expectations weren't very high to begin with. The bare minimum I thought I'd see on these forums, if nothing else, is more people condemning and denouncing Klei's unethical behavior of rug pulling people expecting merch skins to remain valuable based on Klei's track record and official statements. But there are plenty of, for a lack of a better word, mindless drones uncritically applauding every move Klei makes and pretending Klei is not greedy (even though this is still greed, just a different form of it), then trying to put all the blame and gang up on the self-respecting people that are complaining because they feel wronged, so I don't really have any expectations anymore

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1 hour ago, Kaioh said:

My expectations weren't very high to begin with. The bare minimum I thought I'd see on these forums, if nothing else, is more people condemning and denouncing Klei's unethical behavior of rug pulling people expecting merch skins to remain valuable based on Klei's track record and official statements. But there are plenty of, for a lack of a better word, mindless drones uncritically applauding every move Klei makes and pretending Klei is not greedy (even though this is still greed, just a different form of it), then trying to put all the blame and gang up on the self-respecting people that are complaining because they feel wronged, so I don't really have any expectations anymore

only "mindless drones" if they don't mindlessly agree with you, yeah?

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2 hours ago, Kaioh said:

My expectations weren't very high to begin with. The bare minimum I thought I'd see on these forums, if nothing else, is more people condemning and denouncing Klei's unethical behavior of rug pulling people expecting merch skins to remain valuable based on Klei's track record and official statements. But there are plenty of, for a lack of a better word, mindless drones uncritically applauding every move Klei makes and pretending Klei is not greedy (even though this is still greed, just a different form of it), then trying to put all the blame and gang up on the self-respecting people that are complaining because they feel wronged, so I don't really have any expectations anymore

"Mindless drones" comment doesn't work on the forums, and especially doesn't work on me... I'd eat dirt before I stop complaining about how we still don't have the infinite lighter back.

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20 hours ago, gaymime said:

only "mindless drones" if they don't mindlessly agree with you, yeah?

Now you're just projecting. Disagreeing with someone isn't the same as being a mindless drone, one can disagree with an opinion while articulating their stance well and understanding or trying to understand the other side as well. I'm calling out the people who just uncritically repeat the same tired nonsense of how this is such a good thing, how Klei is such a good not-at-all greedy company, are arguing in bad faith etc. and putting all the blame on the people who feel wronged and are complaining with no real intent to even engage with the core of what they're even saying. Also, just because people are on the same side in an argument doesn't mean they agree on everything 100%

19 hours ago, Nikki Darks said:

"Mindless drones" comment doesn't work on the forums, and especially doesn't work on me... I'd eat dirt before I stop complaining about how we still don't have the infinite lighter back.

Yeah well, except threads like these prove the comment applies shockingly well, and your whole "Don't buy merch if you don't want merch? Spend responsibly???" is case in point. You didn't even try to engage with my earlier response, all you did was avoid it entirely and try to put the blame on me, even though I pointed out how this whole situation is Klei's fault and even quoted a Klei Official's response of proof of intent.

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1 minute ago, Kaioh said:

Now you're just projecting. Disagreeing with someone isn't the same as being a mindless drone, one can disagree with an opinion while articulating their stance well and understanding or trying to understand the other side as well. I'm calling out the people who just uncritically repeat the same tired nonsense of how this is such a good thing, how Klei is such a good not-at-all greedy company etc. and putting all the blame on the people who feel wronged and are complaining with no real intent to even engage with the core of what they're even saying. Also, just because people are on the same side in an argument doesn't mean they agree on everything 100%

if you lived by the words you just spoke i would take those words seriously. as of right now you've historically only slandered, insulted and claimed insincerity from anyone who has not shared your opinion and refused to engage with the core of what they've said. you unilaterally agree with almost everyone who has derision for klei on this topic regardless of what they want as a resolution to their ire and while you occasionally step out of this topic and post in other places a majority of your posts are just "klei broke a social contract with me and i am cheated because the pleasure i received for literal years is now all dust in my mouth and doesnt count."

 

if you were a more genuine person with a willingness to listen to others instead of just hear & rebuke i would certainly talk to you about the several garbage things the company does(including with skins which i do take issue with in a more general way) but right now all i see is it being used to "gotcha" me into agreeing to this incredibly bad take that you are super focused on. even in the post below mine you just assumed the absolute worst of the poster then refused to give them even a second of consideration before assuming they had nothing to contribute and disengaging fully. as long as you say anyone who disagrees with you has nothing to contribute then there is no way for anyone who disagrees with you to be anything BUT a mindless drone in your eyes. you made up your mind and drew a hard line in the sand about who counts as having a valid opinion and who doesn't count.

 

can't win a game where the opponent is also the referee and can't have a conversation when the other party gets to say what counts and what doesnt. 

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18 minutes ago, gaymime said:

can't win a game where the opponent is also the referee and can't have a conversation when the other party gets to say what counts and what doesnt. 

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The more I read the anti-Klei arguments, the more I feel like a 5head genius watching ants in a maze.

To give my English-speaking friends some context: there’s a video on Russian YouTube where a bro complains the game is "stale and repetitive." He claims every player uses the exact same tactics and blames Klei for it... while showing 10 of his own worlds where he plays the same character every single time. And the people actually ate it up.

 

What I mean is, hating on Klei - even the most foolish kind - has become the popular thing to do. If you dare to say something objectively positive, even without being toxic to the haters, you're immediately dismissed as a Kleibot. It’s not even a reproach, I’m just genuinely curious: if you truly believe Klei are scammers and literally the evil corporation, why are you still grinding their games, buying skins, and hoarding their merch? There is a massive gap between your philosophy and your actual actions. Make it make sense.

 

In this specific situation, my stance is the same as everyone else's: buying one thing just to get another, and then complaining when that another thing becomes available to everyone else, is strange to say the least. I don’t see any scam here. You got the toy, you got the skin - you got exactly what you paid for. If you paid for a Webber YouTooz (someone buy it for me please, pretty please :3) but received a Wurt instead - that would be a scam, because you didn't get what was promised. No one ever guaranteed that merch skins would stay exclusive forever.

If you think you (and everyone else who bought it) were fools, then you're just torturing yourself over 'wasted' money. That leads straight to tilt and burnout. The only cure is a week (or a month) of digital detox from the game and the fandom. Just remember the Russian saying: 'The stingy man pays twice.' Think before you invest and analyze the long-term perspective if you're the type of person who needs every purchase to provide utility or exclusivity for the sake of your mental health.

I have no motivation to argue; I’m just sharing how I see the relationship between the fandom and Klei. Klei aren't saints, but there’s not enough reason for me to grab the pitchforks. I see this toxic, destructive activism as pure sabotage. It only leads to more disappointment because developers have to waste time dealing with the drama instead of actually making content.

 

As a closing note: don't be mean, don't breed negativity, and don't manifest it. Be polite and kind, and you'll be heard. Have a great day, everyone!

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On 4/30/2026 at 2:38 PM, Nikki Darks said:

Again my guy, nobody is forcing you to buy merch you don't want? I'll assume you're an adult with adult money, so spend responsibly. Idk what kinda response you were hoping to get, but man... Don't buy merch if you don't want merch? Spend responsibly??? 

This goes both ways. Nobody needs all the exclusive skins, so if the cost of a skin isn’t worth it to buy the merch for you, then be okay with never owning the skin.

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19 hours ago, Primalflower said:

I'm so desperate for the wx78 bundling wrap skin and the black tam skin... I would never buy the figurines for them but i would gladly lap that slop up if it were a 10 dollar shop item

lowkey i'd be tempted too though i tend to limit my purchases to only one at a time and only when we get a game update that i can participate in x''D NOW if i could beg klei to do a eu re-release on that maxwell figurine i'd be sitting pretty

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22 hours ago, gaymime said:

if you lived by the words you just spoke i would take those words seriously. as of right now you've historically only slandered, insulted and claimed insincerity from anyone who has not shared your opinion and refused to engage with the core of what they've said. you unilaterally agree with almost everyone who has derision for klei on this topic regardless of what they want as a resolution to their ire and while you occasionally step out of this topic and post in other places a majority of your posts are just "klei broke a social contract with me and i am cheated because the pleasure i received for literal years is now all dust in my mouth and doesnt count."

 

if you were a more genuine person with a willingness to listen to others instead of just hear & rebuke i would certainly talk to you about the several garbage things the company does(including with skins which i do take issue with in a more general way) but right now all i see is it being used to "gotcha" me into agreeing to this incredibly bad take that you are super focused on. even in the post below mine you just assumed the absolute worst of the poster then refused to give them even a second of consideration before assuming they had nothing to contribute and disengaging fully. as long as you say anyone who disagrees with you has nothing to contribute then there is no way for anyone who disagrees with you to be anything BUT a mindless drone in your eyes. you made up your mind and drew a hard line in the sand about who counts as having a valid opinion and who doesn't count.

 

can't win a game where the opponent is also the referee and can't have a conversation when the other party gets to say what counts and what doesnt. 

Again, projection. I push back hard against anyone who argues in bad faith. If you feel offended by my description of a mindless drone, that says more about you than it does about me. Maybe my approach is a bit cold at times, but that's because the people that are responding to me that get this approach generally respond with things that are irrelevant to the topic and derail the conversation entirely, or they are simply bad faith. If I wasn't open to discourse, I wouldn't even be engaging myself in these pointless discussions as much as I have. Also if you truly knew me as much as you claim to know me, then you'd know there are people with which I've found mutual understanding even if I heavily disagreed with them, so much for your "as of right now you've historically only slandered, insulted and claimed insincerity from anyone who has not shared your opinion and refused to engage with the core of what they've said." nonsensical ad hominem. Frankly, stop pretending you know me if you don't actually know me, thank you.

Why would I give more benefit of the doubt to someone who entirely side stepped my response? I've given a proper response with a quote of a Klei official, only to be met with a deflection and putting the blame on me entirely rather than acknowledging Klei is at fault in this mess, following it up with more nonsense, that is not a hallmark of someone who wants to genuinely debate. There's no genuine effort on that person's side to debate me, so I don't see why I would or should do the heavy lifting here. Frankly, your whole response is just an emotional outburst than a genuine response. The fact that you refuse to agree with anything I say on the sole principle that it's supposedly being used for "gotchas" is very telling of your motive and bias. If you hate me and the things I say, that's completely fine with me, but in that case please make that clear, because I'm not interested in talking with someone who resorts to emotional outbursts and personal attacks when things don't unfold the way they wanted them to.

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8 hours ago, Kaioh said:

anyone who argues in bad faith. If you feel offended by my description of a mindless drone, that says more about you than it does about me

you think anyone that feels insulted tells alot about themselfs to you

but you feel insulted by them wich by that logic tells alot about you to us by your own logic
 

8 hours ago, Kaioh said:

responding to me that get this approach generally respond with things that are irrelevant to the topic and derail the conversation entirely

they been saying that are pretty much on the topic, like there talkin about how the merch is about the physical item and the skin is just a bonus, plenty of things are limited time exclusive that later show up again in some sort of way
 

8 hours ago, Kaioh said:

blame on me entirely rather than acknowledging Klei is at fault in this mess,

so somehow its kleis fault for scalpers to exist and do there scalping?
 

8 hours ago, Kaioh said:

your whole response is just an emotional outburst than a genuine response.

and yours is not? i have talked to alot of people with many differend personalitys, i can tell that this here is just such an emotional outburst of yours

 

9 hours ago, Kaioh said:

The fact that you refuse to agree with anything I say on the sole principle that it's supposedly being used for "gotchas" is very telling of your motive and bias.

as you had been doin, not getting to terms with the opposition of oppinions

 

 

9 hours ago, Kaioh said:

who resorts to emotional outbursts and personal attacks when things don't unfold the way they wanted them to.

just like how you seemingly resorted to personaly attack klei at the beggining, blaming them being at fault for scalpers and resellings

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3 hours ago, Echsrick said:

you think anyone that feels insulted tells alot about themselfs to you

but you feel insulted by them wich by that logic tells alot about you to us by your own logic

I don't feel insulted by anything that person said in the slightest, I have no clue where you're even getting that, but that doesn't mean their comments are not ad hominems. These things are not mutually exclusive.

3 hours ago, Echsrick said:

they been saying that are pretty much on the topic, like there talkin about how the merch is about the physical item and the skin is just a bonus, plenty of things are limited time exclusive that later show up again in some sort of way

Thanks for quoting me out of context and leaving out the part that completely defeats this point. That's real honorable of you.

3 hours ago, Echsrick said:

so somehow its kleis fault for scalpers to exist and do there scalping?

Who is even talking about scalpers? What do they have to do with this at all? I said Klei is responsible for creating an exclusivity system where you have to pay pretty penny to own the most prestigious skins by buying expensive merch, then rug pulling people who had bought merch for this reason out of nowhere despite assuring their clientele the skins are exclusive to buying merch before, which by extension means these expensive purchases are mandatory if you want to own the skins. Scalpers aren't a part of this conversation at all, and aren't even hurt by Klei's resurrection system that much, the people most hurt are genuine merch collectors who want merch for merch, not skins.

4 hours ago, Echsrick said:

and yours is not? i have talked to alot of people with many differend personalitys, i can tell that this here is just such an emotional outburst of yours

So me pointing out that person's motive and bias is an emotional outburst? Good to know.

4 hours ago, Echsrick said:

as you had been doin, not getting to terms with the opposition of oppinions

What I said to that other person applies to you too: stop pretending you know me if you don't actually know me.

4 hours ago, Echsrick said:

just like how you seemingly resorted to personaly attack klei at the beggining, blaming them being at fault for scalpers and resellings

What is even this point? I didn't bring up scalpers here, not even once, this is a strawman. The only issues I complained about was Klei resurrecting skins for dirt cheap money compared to the original MSRP of the associated products, straight up disrespecting the original MSRP itself, distributing the resurrected skins for free in massive amounts via Klei ambassadors, and refusal of Klei to compensate OG buyers or attempt to resolve this in other ways. If you don't understand what I'm saying, I don't know what to tell you.

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On 4/17/2026 at 3:21 AM, Your Chester said:

Don’t use so-called scalpers to defend Klei.

sure, klei is at fault for scalpers doin there thing yea sure that makes totaly sense


in any case you work yourself over too much for what its just digital things, complaining that you buy thing that you never wanted physicaly

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