My new favorite infinite liquid compression setup!

[Zarquan]

Have you ever looked at an infinite storage and thought "Wow, all these walls are super lame and stupid!  I want to swim in my infinite liquid storage!"?  Well, behold, the open air infinite liquid compression system!

Look at all that yummy potential radbolt generation!  How many radbolts?  Yes many radbolts.

All liquid blobs other than the ones being infinitely compressed are 10 g.

Warning, this version only works in a vacuum.  Apparently, liquids are more "pushable" in an atmosphere.  Here's one for an atmosphere!

They can be smaller...

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(for atmosphere:)

And you can even put one in with a liquid pump!

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(In atmosphere:)

You can do a roofless one for any liquid you can put two other liquids on top of or a roofed one for water.

Edited April 15 by Zarquan

[Fleetfeet]

"Do you trust yourself to contain stable thermonuclear explosions in your livingroom? Are you prepared to have everything you've ever known engulphed in radioactive waste? Well, have we got a product for you!"

(Very cool, and also I'll never be brave enough to set one of these up)

[Zarquan]

11 hours ago, Fleetfeet said:

"Do you trust yourself to contain stable thermonuclear explosions in your livingroom? Are you prepared to have everything you've ever known engulphed in radioactive waste? Well, have we got a product for you!"

It's actually really stable!  I painted polluted water over it and poured it all over and there wasn't an explosion!

Edited April 16 by Zarquan

[Fleetfeet]

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That IS surprising - so it's solid-tile liquid resistant? I assume droplets from above are still a threat, as well as temperature shocks?

Cool design nonetheless, even though my fear of compressed nonsolids will keep me at a safe distance of a different asteroid belt 😶‍🌫️

 

[Zarquan]

28 minutes ago, Fleetfeet said:

That IS surprising - so it's solid-tile liquid resistant? I assume droplets from above are still a threat, as well as temperature shocks?

Cool design nonetheless, even though my fear of compressed nonsolids will keep me at a safe distance of a different asteroid belt 😶‍🌫️

Oh yeah, it's terrifying!  Absolutely!  But that's part of (if not the) charm of it.

[Ceos]

Ok... now I have to go and try combining with an echer waterfall and pack the water asteroid in one small corner contained by only bits of other liquid.

Awesome stuff!

Also am I the only one imaging the short where the dupes prank Stinky by getting him to mop this one bit of gunk and then a fire hose of water blasts him off the screen?

[BLACKBERREST3]

I've also noticed for two liquids to stack on top of each other where one block is up 1 and over 1 to the left or right of the top liquid, you need a vacuum otherwise the gasses will push the top liquid out of the way and it will fall down.

This falls down.

 

 

This does not fall down.

I usually end up going with a 3 door pump surrounded by manual doors for infinite compression, I think I'll change to this open design later.

[Zarquan]

7 hours ago, BLACKBERREST3 said:

I've also noticed for two liquids to stack on top of each other where one block is up 1 and over 1 to the left or right of the top liquid, you need a vacuum otherwise the gasses will push the top liquid out of the way and it will fall down.

This falls down.

 

 

This does not fall down.

I usually end up going with a 3 door pump surrounded by manual doors for infinite compression, I think I'll change to this open design later.

Yup, the good old liquid bypass mechanic! 

By the way, other than the nuclear waste version, I can't really think of a practical reason to make your infinite storage open air.  Especially when escher waterfalls exist.

Edited June 6 by Zarquan

[BLACKBERREST3]

3 hours ago, Zarquan said:

Yup, the good old liquid bypass mechanic!

Just a word of warning, I heard a couple of builds using the liquid bypass method were broken because liquids that couldn't boil off at mg can now. So you might have to use oil or some other liquid for hotter temps.

 

I forgot it had a name. I just wanted to have liquid locks on corners.

3 hours ago, Zarquan said:

I can't really think of a practical reason to make your infinite storage open air

At some point I want to build a torture chamber for my dupes, I think it would be funny to have a flood trap and they have to run a certain distance to escape 😈

[Zarquan]

6 hours ago, BLACKBERREST3 said:

Just a word of warning, I heard a couple of builds using the liquid bypass method were broken because liquids that couldn't boil off at mg can now. So you might have to use oil or some other liquid for hotter temps.

Personally, I was never really a fan of builds that purposefully cause mass deletion in this manner.  I always make my builds so that the flowing liquid doesn't get deleted by using a high enough mass to prevent it.

[Saturnus]

You can improve your setup by using "gluons". They are those "magic" liquids blobs at about 2/3rd of the liquids single tile rest value that allows you to stack liquids even in atmosphere (in specific cases).

Most common sizes are 20g to 22g for water, pwater, swater, and brine, 200g to 220g for crude oil, petroleum and biodiesel, and 20kg to 22kg for naphtha

You can use them to make single tile liquid vent infinite storages or 2 tiles adjacent over gas vent for infinite gas storage 

Make hop lock easy

Compact hydra setups

Just to name a few common use cases

Edited June 7 by Saturnus

[Zarquan]

5 hours ago, Saturnus said:

You can improve your setup by using "gluons". They are those "magic" liquids blobs at about 2/3rd of the liquids single tile rest value that allows you to stack liquids even in atmosphere (in specific cases).

Most common sizes are 20g to 22g for water, pwater, swater, and brine, 200g to 220g for crude oil, petroleum and biodiesel, and 20kg to 22kg for naphtha

You can use them to make single tile liquid vent infinite storages or 2 tiles adjacent over gas vent for infinite gas storage 

Is using these masses better than 10 g?  I usually use 10 g for any liquid I need to stack unless I need higher thermal mass for stability.

5 hours ago, Saturnus said:

Make hop lock easy

In my experience, this doesn't work if CO2 is in the lower tile if ou use a lower mass liquid like brine or crude oil (if there is too much CO2).  I put an airflow tile on one of the sides to give the CO2 an escape.

[Saturnus]

41 minutes ago, Zarquan said:

Is using these masses better than 10 g?  I usually use 10 g for any liquid I need to stack unless I need higher thermal mass for stability.

Using the very specific blob size range has special properties that you cannot replicate with any other liquid blob sizes. I'll leave you to experiment with it. Just mind that when I say for example 200g to 220g, I mean exactly that, not a fraction of gram above or below.

 

41 minutes ago, Zarquan said:

In my experience, this doesn't work if CO2 is in the lower tile if ou use a lower mass liquid like brine or crude oil (if there is too much CO2).  I put an airflow tile on one of the sides to give the CO2 an escape.

 Gluons have no issues. Dumping the 20kg naphtha first just pushed the co2 out. No problem at all.

 

Edited June 7 by Saturnus

[Zarquan]

9 hours ago, Saturnus said:

Using the very specific blob size range has special properties that you cannot replicate with any other liquid blob sizes. I'll leave you to experiment with it. Just mind that when I say for example 200g to 220g, I mean exactly that, not a fraction of gram above or below.

 Gluons have no issues. Dumping the 20kg naphtha first just pushed the co2 out. No problem at all.

I simulated a "gluon" of water at 21 g and petroleum at 210 g, both falling as droplets in to 300 g single tile carbon dioxide with a reasonably pressurized O2 atmosphere above in the situation I described.  The liquid and gas mutually annihilated and we are left with 279 g (or 300 g - 21 g) and 70 g (300 g - 210 g) of carbon dioxide respectively.  I did not observe the CO2 being pushed out of the way abnormally in comparison to liquids outside the specified range (e.g. 10 g).

I repeated it with opening an actual bottle with the same effect.

EDIT:  A naphtha gluon would not have this issue in the same way, though, as it has a significantly higher mass and would annihilate the carbon dioxide and leave naphtha in its place.  It does not push the CO2 out of the way.  When I repeat this experiment, dropping 21 kg of naphtha on 300 g CO2, I am left with 20.7 kg of naphtha.  That means that the naphtha "works", but only due to its abnormally high mass, not because it is special as a gluon.  I can make a video showing this if needed.

What is the setup you have that doesn't do mutual annihilation?  Could you post a video?

Edited June 8 by Zarquan

[Gurgel]

While I applaud the spirit of the insane contraption, I have had one liquid-based thing blow up on me. I will stay with tripple walls. 

[Zarquan]

7 hours ago, Gurgel said:

While I applaud the spirit of the insane contraption, I have had one liquid-based thing blow up on me. I will stay with tripple walls. 

If I wanted to build this in survival at all, I would probably only do it with nuclear waste to maximize radbolt production with minimal nuclear waste and I would probably have a high pressure liquid proof barrier around it and an alarm system, just to be safe.  Dupes can do crazy things, but this is as theoretically stable as a stacked liquid lock.

 

Edited June 8 by Zarquan