[Game Update] - 720809

[Evelo]

1 hour ago, V2C said:

Fixed a crash when feeding a Pig Man.

Oh sweet, I kept experiencing this but it seemed only related to Mods cause it worked fine with no mods. Weird how things work.

[ZeRoboButler]

4 minutes ago, Koomin said:

Tinkering changes are here I think:

super gastrogain:

-alpha1: 70% -> 85%

-alpha2: 50% -> 80%

wait... so the gastro-gain, needs 2 perks to return it to what it is on live? Well that stinks... by default it had this effect, now it needs perk investment to bring it back up.

[edulopes]

3 minutes ago, WendyHater9000 said:

 

 

Being able to light up the range that’s smaller than torch is too strong?

 

well i was even skeptical on using them after getting speed cirtuits, all those circuits are going to trash bin, the beam booster maybie will still make it but for a sliver, probably i will even remove it for 2 healt ones ( one big and one small) because it became bad again sadly 

[fabin]

10 minutes ago, ZeRoboButler said:

Wait... people use a mod for this?

it also allowed you to push things by walking into them. just used it mostly to annoy my friends, lol

[Jussatoon]

I'll be looking forward to someone figuring out and listing all the Gamma Tinkering skill effects, and if anything happens when equipping multiple of the same circuits at once.

[Maxil20]

As someone who was expecting the gamma circuits to be pretty gamechanging and didn't say much during the beta to wait for them, it's kinda disappointing that they are just... Not? Like basically at all???

It's kinda unfortunate their power still sits in an odd level where for casual players/runs they look pretty appealing, but for skilled players they don't really offer much incentive to play them long term at all (especially compared to trees like Willow/Walter/Winona/Wortox where their trees are very playstyle warping and retain viability even in the endgame). The only thing I can see myself wanting to play WX for is for the elasticspaced slots to move stuff from the surface to caves, and that's very niche.

I hope these can be reconsidered, as I personally considered WX to be in the lower half-quarter of character power and this skilltree really isn't moving that needle all too much.

[AviatorBean]

2 hours ago, V2C said:

Changes

• Circuit tuning:
• • Hardy circuits provide less health overall.
  • Hunger drain benefits with Gastrogain circuits are reduced.
  • The dapper clothing sanity gains from Processing circuits with Alpha Circuit Tinkering II has been reduced.
  • Beanbooster circuit no longer increases the passive health regeneration with Alpha Circuits Tinkering I.
  • Illumination circuits cone light has been adjusted to be smaller overall from Beta Circuit Tinkering II.
  • Electrification Circuit direct damage has been reduced, and the explosion damage from Beta Circuits Tinkering II has been reduced.

 

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Haha good one, April fools day was yesterday though

[Kvetevk]

1 hour ago, nicholasdamian said:

Didn't even realize this was a feature. So the circuit increases sanity gains from clothing items?

They also increase the sanity drain from shadow tools.

[ArDarkGamer]

I feel that ever since the skill tree for WX came out, he has been extremely nerfed, especially when it comes to the status chips. I was really disappointed with these Gamma chips; they were supposed to be the game-changers, but I feel like they just proved how weak the character has become. I hope Klei adjusts this upwards because he really is quite weak now.

[Kvetevk]

3 minutes ago, ArDarkGamer said:

I feel that ever since the skill tree for WX came out, he has been extremely nerfed, especially when it comes to the status chips. I was really disappointed with these Gamma chips; they were supposed to be the game-changers, but I feel like they just proved how weak the character has become. I hope Klei adjusts this upwards because he really is quite weak now.

Stats are now a passive upgrades, we are lucky that they can still be somewhat powerful.

I have to test the gamma circuits but the shield one sounds powerful to me.

[Garridoedu]

So, is the purpose here to nerf WX-78 so much that, after all the effort with the circuits, he ends up becoming just an average character?

[Koomin]

10 minutes ago, ZeRoboButler said:

wait... so the gastro-gain, needs 2 perks to return it to what it is on live? Well that stinks... by default it had this effect, now it needs perk investment to bring it back up.

I mean they gave us 3x the circuits equipped vs live for free without a single point invested.  Literally no one used this circuit on live and people definitely will now.  It is massively stronger versus live since it is literally useless as is on live.  Seems like a fair change to me although I could see giving 10% back.

[KINOTAKO]

ガンマ回路とベータ回路の違いは何ですか？ガンマ回路は電気を消費して使う特殊技のようなものだと期待していたので、少しがっかりしています…。

[Kondr_]

no speed changes? (compared to other alternatives nerfs)
to 15 up to 45 per circuit for example.
and mb reduce size of big speed boost. from 6 to 5 or 4 (because of 25 -> 15 nerf)

still think speed to alpha is good idea as someone suggested

Edited April 3 by Kondr_

[ZeRoboButler]

1 minute ago, Koomin said:

I mean they gave us 3x the circuits equipped vs live for free without a single point invested.  Literally no one used this circuit on live and people definitely will now.  It is massively stronger versus live since it is literally useless as is on live.  Seems like a fair change to me although I could see giving 10% back.

I would be fine with a clean 30% or 33%, and late game I quite enjoyed a bean-booster, hunger and 1 pip health circuit. It was pretty chill when I was just doing stuff around the base, I had a beef with a glossamer saddle too so I wasn't too slow either. 

I do see your point though, now people can be fast, durable, sane and have a decent health pool + sheild (regens a little slow at the moment). 

It would be nice to be able to have an effect on the shield's recharge speed some how, something active to reward you for in combat actions.

[AverageWurtMain]

you need to wet the nutribrick to eat it lmao that's absolutely disgusting

[edulopes]

i dont know yet the cause but i cant use the gamma circuits of sound and defence, in a server ( that i was using on beta) only new servers

[ZeRoboButler]

4 minutes ago, edulopes said:

i dont know yet the cause but i cant use the gamma circuits of sound and defence, in a server ( that i was using on beta) only new servers

yeah something similar happened when you had the elastaspaced-circuit installed when they changed it. Try moving shards or using the celestial orb on the portal to respec your tree. It's a shot in the dark but worth a shot.

[66AKU66]

I tried out those new circuits and I didn't like the combat circuits because it's not rewarding fast pace actions. Example blocking circuit (same for Sonic-Invoker) that allow to block as I understand "x" amount of hits and you can stand still some amount of seconds and it's recharging like more than 1 minute! Not fun.
The good example of fast pacing that I enjoy would be Wheeler with her kiting skill.

And also spin-cycle that don't fit WYSIWYG for me: spinning attack feels very much like AoE attack, but it's actually not AoE.

[edulopes]

9 minutes ago, ZeRoboButler said:

yeah something similar happened when you had the elastaspaced-circuit installed when they changed it. Try moving shards or using the celestial orb on the portal to respec your tree. It's a shot in the dark but worth a shot.

i tried but it didnt work, i really dont know what is happening. maybie is something related to no being the host? yet i still dont know

[Soul7k]

4 hours ago, Kondr_ said:

no speed changes? (compared to other alternatives nerfs)
to 15 up to 45 per circuit for example.
and mb reduce big speed cost (because of 25 -> 15 nerf)

still think speed to alpha is good idea as someone suggested

at that point just take me back. I could care less about having 3 types of circuits if they have to be nerfed into mediocrity. I would rather just have my highs high again. Wolfgang literally has a superhardy circuit, a supergastro circuit, superprocessing circuit baseline and over 2x the damage as WX for free. WX has to literally work and spend time to be worse than Wolfgang at this point. Great balancing

Spoiler

while I do agree that maybe going what 60 days between eating was a bit much and ignoring sanity loss from bosses was a bit much, the stat and electrification nerfs were just unnecessary. the worst part is I doubt we are done I wouldn't be surprised if they were cut in half again and stats lowered even more at the rate this beta has been going

 

Edited April 3 by Soul7k

[HA LO]

To be honest, the updates are becoming more and more disappointing. The skill tree values keep getting nerfed, while the new circuits haven't received the buffs they deserve.

 

I have the following suggestions:

 

1. Circuit roles need to be more clearly defined. α circuits should enhance the three basic stats. β circuits should improve quality of life (heat/cold circuits, movement speed, and night vision). γ circuits should be combat-related (yes, the shadow and moon faction circuits are also in γ — I'll explain why later).

2. The Super-Hardy Circuit's effect should be changed from damage reduction to regenerating 1 HP every few seconds (like a weaker version of Jellybean). The Electrification Circuit should be moved to γ.

3. New γ circuits:

   · Attack multiplier circuit (unlocked by scanning a Varg / Varglet). Takes up 2 slots. The skill tree could enhance it by increasing the attack multiplier further — numbers can be adjusted. Since Varg and Varglet aren't easy to find early on, the power level stays under control, while late-game experience improves.

   · Armor circuit (unlocked by scanning a Rock Lobster / Slurtle). Takes up 3 slots. The skill tree could grant additional damage reduction. Again, numbers can be tuned.

   · Tentacle circuit (unlocked by scanning a Tentacle / Big Tentacle). Takes up 1 slot. Attacks have a chance to summon a small tentacle. The skill tree could upgrade it so the summoned tentacle becomes a shadow tentacle.

4. The Blocking Circuit needs a mechanic change. I currently have two suggestions. Change the scan requirement to Snurtle. Change the crafting material from Shelmet to Broken Shell. Adjust the slot cost to 2–3. One suggestion: make it work like Wigfrid's shield — blocking on command. The other: give it the effect of the Snurtle Shell Armor, but with a cooldown (5–10 seconds).

5. The Spin-Cycle Circuit is clearly underwhelming. Maybe add a chance to summon a Lightning bolt that strikes the primary attack target, dealing 10–75 damage based on how wet the target is. That could work. Alternatively, rework the Spin-Cycle Circuit entirely: attacks could apply electricity, and it could interact with the Electrification Circuit to allow the player to actively trigger an area-of-effect electric shock under certain conditions.

 

Finally, a personal take: WX-78 currently gives me the feeling that each player can choose different circuits based on their own playstyle — both for survival and combat. Yes, we need to keep defensive circuits in check, but that shouldn't come from non-stop nerfs. Instead, we should be making more interesting circuits so players can make meaningful trade-offs. Do you want more extreme offense or more extreme defense? Or do you sacrifice both for the sake of better or more interesting circuits? That is what should be done right now.

[grimbles]

Could we get a wheeler style dodge circuit? the existing gamma circuits don't seem very useful and cumbersome to use. also it would be nice to see what the specific upgrades are on the individual circuits.

[sghr]

WX-78 is way too weak. Please buff him.

[tHe_silent_H]

I wish instead of directly nerfing the numbers, they made stacking the same circuit give diminishing returns(like the speed circuit). so that individual circuits felt powerful, and encourage variety.