Could wheeler become a new character?

[Wheeler for lif]

Wheeler is one of the best solo characters in my opinion and it would be so cool if we got a hamlet x dst update or just wheeler as a character. The update could be smt like wheeler while exploring finds the island of dst and then the queen realises that so she makes wilba go and colonise land to make the pig kingdom even better. Wilba could be a counter part to wurt having the ability to upgrade pig houses make shops and guards (ofc at a much higher price then in hamlet) the shops could have a trading system instead of oinks and instead of being buildings you can enter rather act more as a stall. I think this might just happen as in the terraria collab terraria got a pew o matic even tho its no where in dst… plus in the new tropical shirts? We can see a hamlet tree! (And we have wormwood so its posible!!) 

[wolf5395wolf]

No bcuz wheeler likes adventures and I'm dst there small amount of them in comparison to Hamlet 

And most of characters got her perks (not counting the compass)

[Wheeler for lif]

Sure wortox can “dodge” but hes limited to 20 yeah walter has a slingshot but the pew no matic can do 60 dmg with just twigs and her compass would be completely new and for adventures she would be a spelunker simply the caves are filled with adventures so i think shes possible 

[Cheggf]

On 10/28/2025 at 8:51 AM, wolf5395wolf said:

No bcuz wheeler likes adventures and I'm dst there small amount of them in comparison to Hamlet 

And most of characters got her perks (not counting the compass)

Nobody has anything even remotely similar to what Wheeler does. 

[Well-met]

klei hasn't brought in anything from SW/Ham for years now, its not happening.

im also pretty sure they're never ever making a new character again since the workload to keep the strings and skill trees updated is overwhelming

Edited November 4, 2025 by Well-met

[GreenBowers]

Not to disparage your character, but if they're going to add any character to DST, it will probably be Wagstaff.

Adding a character to the game now requires them to also make an entire skilltree, and then they have to work on catching up adding tons of skins to them, and to give them enough game mechanics that they stand up to the current cast. Its a lot of work, and with how many years we've been going through character refreshes- then character skill trees- several of which aren't even out yet and probably wouldn't all be out for at least half a year, I doubt they would go out of their way to add even more onto that pile.

I don't think Klei wants to do character reworks and refreshes and updates forever, Buuuuuuut, if they were going to ever add a final character, I think it would be one that the entire game is about and prominently features, so Wagstaff or Charlie maybe. I only say those two in the event that Klei wants to add someone new. It would make sense that after the story arc for DST is done, you get one of these core characters playable, like how Maxwell came about originally.

Wheeler has enough sauce to her that she could be a fun character. I think all the remaining unused characters do, but we're at that point where its just unlikely.

[Hungry French]

On 27.10.2025 at 00:20, Wheeler for lif said:

На мой взгляд, Уилер — один из лучших персонажей-одиночек, и было бы здорово, если бы мы получили обновление «Деревенская хижина» или просто Уилера как персонажа. В обновлении могло бы быть что-то вроде того, что Уилер во время исследования находит остров ДСТ, а затем королева понимает, что нужно отправить Уилбу колонизировать землю, чтобы сделать королевство свиней ещё лучше. Уилба могла бы стать альтернативой Вурту, имея возможность улучшать свинарники, создавать магазины и нанимать охранников (конечно, по гораздо более высокой цене, чем в деревне). В магазинах могла бы быть система торговли, а не хрюканье, и они могли бы больше походить на ларьки, а не на здания, в которые можно войти. Я думаю, что это может произойти, как в случае с коллаборацией Terraria, где у Террарии есть пью-о-матик, хотя в Destruction Simulator его нет… плюс, в новых тропических рубашках? Мы видим дерево из деревни! (И у нас есть полынь, так что это возможно!!)

It would be great if the DS content wasn't abandoned in the old game... At least move it to DST...

[Mike23Ua]

1 hour ago, Hungry French said:

It would be great if the DS content wasn't abandoned in the old game... At least move it to DST...

If you want to get technical, DST is advertised and sold to people as a Standalone Expansion to DS (meaning that it is DLC for DS)

Same as how Red Dead Redemption Undead Nightmares was DLC for RDR but could also be sold or bought separately without needing to also own RDR to play Undead Nightmares.

So in short: DST is DLC for DS..

And furthermore: if you own DS & it’s DLC (with the sole exception being DST) then you can use content from DLC in the base game (meaning you can use hamlet machetes in base DS while playing as Walani from the Shipwrecked DLC)

If DST was to ever be DLC Compatible with the rest of DS then you’d be able to play as Wheeler in DST, or Wurt in DS.

[Hungry French]

2 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

Если бы DST когда-нибудь стала совместимой с остальной частью DS, то вы могли бы играть за Уилера в DST или за Вурца в DS.

I would be glad if it were so. DS needs a life. Even combining it with DST would be many times better than temporary extinction.

But I don't think we'll see anything related to DS until the 20th anniversary... Unfortunately.

[lowercase skye]

47 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

So in short: DST is DLC for DS..

That's not how DLC works. Don't Starve Together is an entirely different game with radically different code, which you cannot buy as DLC for Don't Starve and has always been its own separate game.

[Mike23Ua]

42 minutes ago, lowercase skye said:

That's not how DLC works. Don't Starve Together is an entirely different game with radically different code, which you cannot buy as DLC for Don't Starve and has always been its own separate game.

I personally blame Klei’s weird way of wording things. An “Expansion” means it Expands upon the original product. They should have instead labeled it as a Sequel.

[Bumber64]

1 hour ago, lowercase skye said:

That's not how DLC works. Don't Starve Together is an entirely different game with radically different code, which you cannot buy as DLC for Don't Starve and has always been its own separate game.

More to the point, DST receiving active development (while DS doesn't) absolutely disqualifies it as DLC.

Klei's term "Standalone Expansion" avoids that connotation, and basically just means "sequel, but we re-used some assets".

15 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

I personally blame Klei’s weird way of wording things. An “Expansion” means it Expands upon the original product. They should have instead labeled it as a Sequel.

Since I know you like referencing other games: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_2150:_The_Moon_Project

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Earth 2150: The Moon Project is a sequel to the real time strategy game Earth 2150. While the game is in fact a stand-alone game, many consider it an expansion pack because it does little more than provide new missions, and weapons.

The distinction between a sequel and an expansion is subjective, but standalone is pretty clear.

DST continued to receive updates and eventually became something distinct, but possibly wasn't expected to be more than DS with multiplayer at its outset.

Edited November 3, 2025 by Bumber64

[lowercase skye]

34 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

An “Expansion” means it Expands upon the original product. 

Something sequels usually do!

[Edible Coal]

i feel like this convo strays away from whatever can wheeler be in dst
 

the answer is always yes, klei can always add and make whoever into dst if they wish to , but i have a feeling that they wont do it consider they have to much stuff to work on and a extra character with a new skill tree is the last thing they need 

[Mike23Ua]

54 minutes ago, Edible Coal said:

i feel like this convo strays away from whatever can wheeler be in dst
 

the answer is always yes, klei can always add and make whoever into dst if they wish to , but i have a feeling that they wont do it consider they have to much stuff to work on and a extra character with a new skill tree is the last thing they need 

For PlayStation 5 players- who literally just got the game released to their console for the first time ever…. You have to ask yourself WOULD it be an “Extra Character” or would it be the FIRST since the new game launched?

And I feel like that’s the mindset Klei staff really need to have, if there are devs who are feeling burned out on DS/DST let them work on something else but bring in new people who are still passionate about DS/DST so that cool stuff gets done for the game by people who aren’t burned out working on it, does that make sense?

[wormwood123]

11 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

For PlayStation 5 players- who literally just got the game released to their console for the first time ever…. You have to ask yourself WOULD it be an “Extra Character” or would it be the FIRST since the new game launched?

And I feel like that’s the mindset Klei staff really need to have, if there are devs who are feeling burned out on DS/DST let them work on something else but bring in new people who are still passionate about DS/DST so that cool stuff gets done for the game by people who aren’t burned out working on it, does that make sense?

There’s a very minimal amount of changes and it can play with the ps4 version I wouldn’t consider it a new game… I feel like I don’t quite understand what you mean? 

[Edible Coal]

52 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

For PlayStation 5 players- who literally just got the game released to their console for the first time ever…. You have to ask yourself WOULD it be an “Extra Character” or would it be the FIRST since the new game launched?

And I feel like that’s the mindset Klei staff really need to have, if there are devs who are feeling burned out on DS/DST let them work on something else but bring in new people who are still passionate about DS/DST so that cool stuff gets done for the game by people who aren’t burned out working on it, does that make sense?

is literally a port

[Hungry French]

10 hours ago, lowercase skye said:

That's not how DLC works. Don't Starve Together is an entirely different game with radically different code, which you cannot buy as DLC for Don't Starve and has always been its own separate game.

Standalone DLC bro.

9 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

Лично я виню в этом странную формулировку Klei. «Расширение» означает, что продукт дополнен. Вместо этого им следовало назвать его продолжением.

In general, it is very difficult to call it a sequel because, in addition to continuing the story (only part of it), it is just a multiplayer remaster of the DS.

8 hours ago, lowercase skye said:

Something sequels usually do!

The sequel completes the game series. What do people lose by not playing DS ? Not much. Just 2 small DLCs and a buggy game.
The real sequels are Dark Souls 1 and 2.
Hollow Knight and Silksong. etc.
That is, an absolutely unique product. That's why a lot of people bypass DS and have not played it. For it is essentially like Overwatch and Overwatch 2. But I condemn such game numbering. If you've ported the exact same game with minor modifications, it doesn't mean it's a sequel.
A sequel is a standalone and valuable product that's unique. Everything else is a remake, remaster, re-release, etc...

8 hours ago, lowercase skye said:

Something sequels usually do!

In 90% of cases, a sequel is a unique game, not the same game with minor improvements... So DST is not a true sequel. It doesn't deserve to be called a sequel... Not to mention that many "sequels" in the gaming industry are actually spin-offs, but they are often confused by both players and developers...

[lowercase skye]

11 hours ago, Hungry French said:

Standalone DLC bro.

These are contradictory terms. What is DST "downloadable content" for? As a standalone product, it cannot be downloadable content for anything, because you aren't purchasing one game and then downloading DST as extra content for it. You're just purchasing a game.

[hyoton123]

“Is DST DLC for DS,” the greatest thread in the history of forums.

(it is not and wheeler isnt coming)

Edited November 3, 2025 by hyoton123

[IanKSB91]

It is unlikely that Wheeler would come at this time but who knows, I suppouse it could be more possible after the skilltree updates are finished, but it could take some years since I suppose there are other kinds of updates they could make before adding new characters so I wouldn't expect it for the near future. (But I understand the wish jaja)

[Hungry French]

11 hours ago, lowercase skye said:

These are contradictory terms. What is DST "downloadable content" for? As a standalone product, it cannot be downloadable content for anything, because you aren't purchasing one game and then downloading DST as extra content for it. You're just purchasing a game.

This is literally a universally accepted term in the video game industry. DST can be considered a standalone DLC.

In general, DST is literally a multiplayer re-release of DS. The developers decided to simply sell the same game twice and force multiplayer on single-player players. It's that simple. Why isn't Elden Ring: Nightreign considered a sequel? There is a significant difference between Elden Ring and DST.
DST has never been a sequel and never will be.
This is just a multiplayer competitive version of DS. If there is a sequel in the DS universe, which I highly doubt, Klei doesn't care about anything except DST.

6 hours ago, IanKSB91 said:

It is unlikely that Wheeler would come at this time but who knows, I suppouse it could be more possible after the skilltree updates are finished, but it could take some years since I suppose there are other kinds of updates they could make before adding new characters so I wouldn't expect it for the near future. (But I understand the wish jaja)

Someday they will be moved from DS... Maybe on the 30th anniversary of DST we will get a single mode...

[Bumber64]

5 hours ago, Hungry French said:

This is literally a universally accepted term in the video game industry. DST can be considered a standalone DLC.

In general, DST is literally a multiplayer re-release of DS. The developers decided to simply sell the same game twice and force multiplayer on single-player players. It's that simple. Why isn't Elden Ring: Nightreign considered a sequel? There is a significant difference between Elden Ring and DST.
DST has never been a sequel and never will be.

A universally accepted term which you are misusing. The definition involves "additional content" for a game. DST is too far removed technologically from DS. The skin and network systems are incompatible with DS, along with too much else to list.

DS released in 2013. Hamlet ended development in 2019. Nearly 7 years. DST was released in 2016. Almost 10 years and counting. DST's post-release development time is already longer than DS and all its actual DLC combined. To call DST a re-release at this point is disingenuous. Can you believe they re-released Hollow Knight and then added "Silksong" to the title? Only took them 9 years!

You haven't even established that Nightreign is considered a DLC of Elden Ring, even if it might qualify as such. (Wouldn't know; haven't played.) It doesn't call itself that on the Steam page, and isn't on Elden Ring's DLC list. Sequels and DLC aren't the only options, either. Spinoffs exist.

But the most important part is that DST literally calls itself "a sequel of sorts" on the title screen, with the events all taking place after DS and in the same timeline.

Edited November 4, 2025 by Bumber64

[Hungry French]

1 hour ago, Bumber64 said:

Общепринятый термин, который вы используете не по назначению. Определение включает в себя «дополнительный контент» для игры. DST слишком сильно отличается от DS с технологической точки зрения. Кожные и сетевые системы несовместимы с DS, как и многое другое, что можно перечислить.

DS вышла в 2013 году. Hamlet прекратила разработку в 2019 году. Почти 7 лет. DST вышла в 2016 году. Почти 10 лет и ещё немного. Время разработки DST после выхода уже больше, чем у DS и всех её DLC вместе взятых. Называть DST переизданием на данном этапе было бы нечестно. Можете ли вы поверить, что они переиздали Hollow Knight, а затем добавили в название «Шелкопеву»? На это у них ушло всего 9 лет!

Silksong is a spin-off. And it cannot be called a re-release, because there is 99.9% of the unique content without re uses. DST, on the contrary, re-uses 99.9% of the percentage of DS and RoG...

 

1 hour ago, Bumber64 said:

Но самое важное то, что DST буквально называет себя «своего рода продолжением» на титульном экране, а все события происходят после DS и в той же временной шкале.

Klei doesn't understand definitions. DST has only a plot continuation, but from the point of view of gameplay it's just Don't Starve RoG : Together Edition + updates. For a long time in the community, DST has been considered a SUBSTITUTE for DS... Sequels can NEVER replace a game, because they are not remasters, remakes, re-releases, or multiplayer versions.

These are unique games... 99% of the games that have the number 2 are unique. Or are you going to tell me not to play the Masterpiece Hotline Miami 1 because it has a sequel? And you can't because the product is unique, unlike DST, which brazenly re-use DS content.

Actually... DS didn't even need DST... They could just update the original DS and its engine and that's it... There is no point in creating a separate game and also releasing useless DLCs for an outdated game...
Did someone ask to release Overwatch 2? No, no one asked. Did someone ask to release DST? Nobody! People asked to make multiplayer, but NO ONE asked to make it a separate game...

I think having two separate games is absolutely unfair. Especially because Klei advertises DS as a single-player version, although in fact it is an outdated 2012 game with additional content.

And the developers do not adapt DST for solo in any way... We have only 2 game modes... Server and local... But there is no single one...

That is why we have constant lags, reduced generation of the world... The allocation of resources and HP balance of many creatures is incorrect...
and the funniest thing is the presence of functions that work only in a team like Telltale Heart. Lazy Deserter ( BOSS ITEM LOL ), some skill Tree Skills, Wes Sanity Balloons... And I'm sure there's a lot more I haven't mentioned...
you can also remember the REAL Beard Lords, which have unique animations, sounds and behaviors... Sunken Boat ( Wolly the Parrot ). Glommer Bell, etc... unrealized vanilla cave biomes...

All these arguments about DST and DS are just Klei's fault, who thought that making multiplayer and single player different games was an amazing idea... And it's their fault that DS doesn't have both payback and online. 
DST is a mistake, and DS is only a beta version (I've heard it called that, and I agree with that).

 

DST is the Together edition of the DS version... That's it... Other companies usually remove the original game from the store. And I would be glad of that, for the most part. Because starting to play with Don't Starve means that you will love this version more. And any changes in its multiplayer version will be perceived negatively, because this is not in the spirit of Don't Starve. This is the spirit - Together.

[Hungry French]

So let's not throw concepts around. The sequel in the gaming industry is generally recognized as continuing not only the plot of the original game, but also as a unique IP without re-use.  Although if you think about the plot... He literally doesn't exist outside of animations...

what was the plot of DS about? Wilson traveled through the dimensions in search of a way out, fighting with Maxwell...
what was the plot of DST? The survivors (changing the main character) are fighting Charlie (changing the main villain). 

This already contradicts the sequel, because the main characters have changed. 
Where is all this happening? In some dimension unknown to Wilson. In this dimension, Wilson and Maxwell see for themselves the unexplored secrets of the world, the ocean and caves... Is this exactly the same RoG measurement? 
Last year, Wanda and Wilson moved through the dimensions of the constant, and RoG was represented there as a separate dimension... ( Inappropriate location ). 

DST is more like a spin-off.  Although... Remembering that some of the DS characters are not in the DST... And they are never mentioned... And remembering New Home... It can be assumed that the DST is just one more global offshoot... And we have 3 universes. Where there is Wilson from DS, DST and New Home...

And if you also remember that there is The Screecher... Which is the forgotten part of the constant...  Unfortunately, Klei probably forgot about it... But it would be nice to see a link to it. It can also be connected with the plot of DS, DST and New Home if you really want to.

Well, from a gameplay point of view, DST is a RoG. But bigger and modified for multiplayer functionality) Re-release)