[Game Update] - 688174

[Lucas Rego]

Please make it so we can play this with the mod Don't Starve Alone, otherwise I feel we are gonna loose a lot of players

[Kvetevk]

7 hours ago, V2C said:

Updated the art of the Visionist’s Mask.

 

This change makes me so sad, my favorite Wilson mask is gone 😭

Edited September 6, 2025 by KvetekSK

[ZeRoboButler]

1 minute ago, KvetekSK said:

This change makes me so sad, my favorite Wilson mask is gone 😭

I guess this is for subtle hinting at Wilson's importance rather then the blatant and obvious one we had before, although I do sympathize with the the sentiment. 

[Creatorofswamps]

The new biome-dependent tree loot is great. But the changes to the mask are very disappointing

[Jakepeng99]

7 hours ago, V2C said:

Boulderbough’s vines will dig up loot relevant to the biome it’s in.

I was gonna suggest this, read my mind.

[Kacpert25]

8 hours ago, V2C said:

Boulderbough’s vines will dig up loot relevant to the biome it’s in.

Amazing change, maybe now players will be more willing to visit some underground biomes for loot from boulderboughs.

[Frosty_Mentos]

2 hours ago, ZeRoboButler said:

I guess this is for subtle hinting at Wilson's importance rather then the blatant and obvious one we had before, although I do sympathize with the the sentiment. 

That's the thing, it was funny and so it should have been kept :c

[namhai]

1 hour ago, Frosty_Mentos said:

That's the thing, it was funny and so it should have been kept :c

The funny is even supported by character examination quotes. Please let us make fun of Wilson, Klei :D

[Lovens]

9 hours ago, Instant-Noodles said:

Nope, it won't.  The Biome is determined by the Map Layout used to create the region during World Generation. 

Basically, during World Gen, each region of the map is created using a layout.  Each of those layouts has a code name.  If you don't see that layout listed under the biome in my loot table above, then it won't be considered to be a part of that biome.  Re-turfing the ground won't ever change that.

For example, here is a graphic of the surface shard of a freshly generated world from this patch.  Each world gen map region is outlined with its layout code name in the center. 

EDIT: Looks like the forums now shrinks image attachments with large dimensions, so you won't be able to enlarge the graphic below to read the text.  So, I've also uploaded the graphic to Imgur (which should let you see it at its original 3400x3400 resolution): https://i.imgur.com/D9Y7SS5.jpeg

I am absolutely fascinated by this image and spent like half an hour examining it in detail. I love looking at different map generating approaches! May I ask, how did you generate this image and is there any way to access this tool for a casual player (say, via a mod)?

I was thoroughly looking at it hoping to find any pattern in ocean setpiece generation and besides Lunar Island being a part of the surface world (which is clearly shown by how biome "rooms cells" are constructed) the rest of the ocean landmarks seems to be randomly generated and placed in existing free space not occupied by anything else. 

I had an interesting experience generating a bunch of surface maps looking for a perfect megabase world, and I applied some worldgen mods to tinker with biome and setpiece placements when generating them. Once we settled down with the world we liked, I managed to re-generate an exact copy of it with two marble setpieces swapped their positions through one of the mod settings - later we found out that this tiny change in the world seed also affected every single ocean landmark position as well - all Malbatross spawners, Waterlogged, both Pearl's island and Moon Quay, Crab King, kelp shoals, Salt shoals, even boat setpieces and standalone sea stacks - everything was randomly re-shuffled and sprinkled into different places of the ocean while the outlines and other setpieces of the main land and Lunar Island stayed exactly the same. 

[GrapeVruit]

5 hours ago, ZeRoboButler said:

I guess this is for subtle hinting at Wilson's importance rather then the blatant and obvious one we had before, although I do sympathize with the the sentiment. 

I suppose your right. If the other two masks are suppose to represent Charlie and Maxwell (At least, that's what I believe), having the last mask be almost identical to Wilson's face kind of ruins the mystery they're planning for the 3 characters. Still, I am going to miss that dumb mask ;(

[Wigfridge2137]

29 minutes ago, GrapeVruit said:

I suppose your right. If the other two masks are suppose to represent Charlie and Maxwell (At least, that's what I believe), having the last mask be almost identical to Wilson's face kind of ruins the mystery they're planning for the 3 characters. Still, I am going to miss that dumb mask ;(

I mean what mystery? If it was maxwell charlie and wilson then it was all 3 people that were using the throne. If not then its not about them but something else so changing the mask makes  sense at it has nothing to do with wilson in that case. Lore is lore. Fun is fun. I am glad they changed it if it has no lore implication to wilson at all since it would just confuse players. Lore of this game is already complicated and there is no need to make it even harder to understand.

[mkemal23]

1 hour ago, Wigfridge2137 said:

I mean what mystery? If it was maxwell charlie and wilson then it was all 3 people that were using the throne. If not then its not about them but something else so changing the mask makes  sense at it has nothing to do with wilson in that case. Lore is lore. Fun is fun. 

Except there are no changes with Mask's lore or their implications. All three masks still represent Wilson Maxwell and Charlie. The other two masks had perfect desing, meanwhile Wilson's mask was literally just Wilson's face carved in thulecite. Which I belive is the reason why they changed it.

1 hour ago, Wigfridge2137 said:

 Lore is lore. Fun is fun. I am glad they changed it if it has no lore implication to wilson at all since it would just confuse players. Lore of this game is already complicated and there is no need to make it even harder to understand.

If it had no lore Implication to Wilson in first place then Klei would have tought twice before adding the first art and quotes for the Wilson's mask. There is nothing confusing about the  lore or what masks represent. All still same people. (Still wish they kept the old art for the mask though, It was my favorite)

[Echsrick]

9 hours ago, KvetekSK said:

This change makes me so sad, my favorite Wilson mask is gone 😭

why downgrate? thats sad

[mkemal23]

17 minutes ago, Echsrick said:

why downgrate? thats sad

Yeahh, New one looks much more polished but old one was the best. Especially the hair part was much better.

Another day, another L for Wilson lovers. 

[Wigfridge2137]

1 hour ago, mkemal23 said:

Except there are no changes with Mask's lore or their implications. All three masks still represent Wilson Maxwell and Charlie. The other two masks had perfect desing, meanwhile Wilson's mask was literally just Wilson's face carved in thulecite. Which I belive is the reason why they changed it.

If it had no lore Implication to Wilson in first place then Klei would have tought twice before adding the first art and quotes for the Wilson's mask. There is nothing confusing about the  lore or what masks represent. All still same people. (Still wish they kept the old art for the mask though, It was my favorite)

The problem is in most cases they dont think at all before making huge changes ( aka lunar hail not dealing dmg or fixing exploit with mimic green amulet ) which in both cases are good changes in my opinion but most players think otherwise so who am i to judge. What is confusing about the lore is murals are not openly presented anywhere so player that would love to deep dive into lore is either forced into checking youtube or dig into forums/wiki - and its the worst possible way to present lore to people. Just add new cathegory in game menu with links to all the videos murals and all lore related stuff not that hard.

2 hours ago, mkemal23 said:

Except there are no changes with Mask's lore or their implications. All three masks still represent Wilson Maxwell and Charlie. The other two masks had perfect desing, meanwhile Wilson's mask was literally just Wilson's face carved in thulecite. Which I belive is the reason why they changed it.

If it had no lore Implication to Wilson in first place then Klei would have tought twice before adding the first art and quotes for the Wilson's mask. There is nothing confusing about the  lore or what masks represent. All still same people. (Still wish they kept the old art for the mask though, It was my favorite)

also i wouldn't be so sure about wilson charlie and maxwell faces being on those masks. While only maxwell appearance stays in some way close. Charlie has no earings and the face looks weird. The third mask was changed and it doesnt look like wilson at all so i would think twice before making those theories. Also why would ancients that were worshiping the moon even make those masks? If they somehow knew about the future they would never go with the shadow way and thats what they did at the end so i hardly belive those masks show wilson charlie and maxwell. 

[mkemal23]

1 hour ago, Wigfridge2137 said:

The problem is in most cases they dont think at all before making huge changes ( aka lunar hail not dealing dmg or fixing exploit with mimic green amulet ) which in both cases are good changes in my opinion but most players think otherwise so who am i to judge. What is confusing about the lore is murals are not openly presented anywhere so player that would love to deep dive into lore is either forced into checking youtube or dig into forums/wiki - and its the worst possible way to present lore to people. Just add new cathegory in game menu with links to all the videos murals and all lore related stuff not that hard.

The Devs and Writers are two diffirent teams. Developers open betas so they can test those "huge" changes before update goes live. Writers rarely do such changes in the lore.

So I doubt there was a mistake/change for the masks meaning.

1 hour ago, Wigfridge2137 said:

also i wouldn't be so sure about wilson charlie and maxwell faces being on those masks. While only maxwell appearance stays in some way close. Charlie has no earings and the face looks weird. The third mask was changed and it doesnt look like wilson at all so i would think twice before making those theories. Also why would ancients that were worshiping the moon even make those masks? If they somehow knew about the future they would never go with the shadow way and thats what they did at the end so i hardly belive those masks show wilson charlie and maxwell. 

I'm not doing any theories. Literally half of the character quotes suggest third mask is for Wilson. 

Not only that but quotes say the other two masks look Torn down and Angry. Which fits Maxwell and Charlies reign with Nightmare throne.

Who made them ? Idk, Maybe Charlie or maybe Ancients. But It's clear which mask is made for who. (Unless klei changes lore, Which IIRC done once.)

Edited September 6, 2025 by mkemal23

[Popian]

Possible tropes that could be followed with the mask looking like Wilson are "history repeats itself" where figures of the past can not only have roles similar to ones in the present but looks as well, or "time traveler's destiny" where going back in time to play your part is what keeps the present consistent.

Edit: another is "prophecy fulfillment", where ancients predicted events that are happening now.

Edited September 6, 2025 by Popian

[Dingle]

On 9/5/2025 at 7:04 PM, Instant-Noodles said:

Boulderbough Vine Loot - Surface

  Reveal hidden contents

Forest Biome 
(World Gen Layouts: Forest hunters, Befriend the pigs, Magic meadow, Hounded magic meadow)
rocks				33.33%
goldnugget			22.22%
flint				22.22%
nitre				22.22%

Savanna Biome
(World Gen Layouts: Great Plains, The hunters)
rocks				33.33%
poop				66.67%

Deciduous Biome
(World Gen Layouts: Speak to the king, Mole Colony Deciduous)
rocks				43.48%
flint				21.74%
goldnugget			13.04%
poop				21.74%

Marsh Biome
(World Gen Layouts: Squeltch)
rocks				66.67%
flint				33.33%
tentaclespots			0.00%

Grass Biome
(World Gen Layouts: Beeeees!, Killer bees!, Make a Beehat, Frogs and bugs, MooseBreedingTask, Make a pick)
rocks				66.67%
flint				33.33%

Rocky Biome
(World Gen Layouts: Dig that rock, Kill the spiders, Mole Colony Rocks)
rocks				44.44%
flint				33.33%
goldnugget			22.22%

Desert Biome
(World Gen Layouts: Lightning Bluff, Badlands)
rocks				100.00%
boneshards			0.00%

Moon Biome
(WorldGen Layouts: MoonIsland_IslandShards, MoonIsland_Beach, MoonIsland_Forest, MoonIsland_Baths, MoonIsland_Mine)
rocks				20.00%
flint				20.00%
moonglass			40.00%
moonrocknugget			20.00%
rock_avocado_fruit_sprout	0.00%
rock_avocado_fruit_sprout	0.00%

 

Boulderbough Vine Loot - Caves

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Mud Biome
(World Gen Layouts: MudWorld, MudCave, MudLights, MudPit, ToadStoolTask1, ToadStoolTask3)
rocks				78.43%
fossil_piece			1.96%
poop				19.61%
		
Cavern Biome
(World Gen Layouts: SpillagmiteCaverns)
rocks				79.37%
fossil_piece			7.94%
guano				4.76%
thulecite_piece			7.94%
silk				0.00%
boneshard			0.00%
		
Guano Biome
(World Gen Layouts: BigBatCave, RockyLand, ToadStoolTask2, BatCloister)
rocks				10.00%
flint				10.00%
goldnugget			5.00%
guano				75.00%

Ruins Biome
(World Gen Layouts: LichenLand, Residential, Military, Sacred, TheLabyrinth, SacredAltar, AtriumMaze, MoreAltars, CaveJungle, MilitaryPits, MuddySacred, Residential2, Residential3)
rocks				24.27%
flint				14.56%
thulecite_pieces		48.54%
redgem				3.64%
bluegem				3.64%
purplegem			2.43%
yellowgem			0.97%
orangegem			0.97%
greengem			0.97%

Vent Biome
(World Gen Layouts: CentipedeCaveTask, CentipedeCaveIslandTask)
rocks				57.12%
flint				30.46%
goldnugget			7.62%
redgem				1.90%
bluegem				1.90%
purplegem			0.76%
yellowgem			0.08%
orangegem			0.08%
greengem			0.08%
		
Vent Biome - Shadow Rifts Active
(World Gen Layouts: CentipedeCaveTask, CentipedeCaveIslandTask)
rocks				9.17%
flint				9.17%
goldnugget			36.70%
dreadstone			0.00%
redgem				9.17%
bluegem				9.17%
purplegem			7.34%
yellowgem			6.42%
orangegem			6.42%
greengem			6.42%

Mushroom Biome
(World Gen Layouts: RedForest, GreenForest, BlueForest, FungalNoiseForest, FungalNoiseMeadow)
rocks				62.50%
flint				31.25%
goldnugget			6.25%
red_mushroom			0.00%
blue_mushroom			0.00%
green_mushroom			0.00%
		
Sinkhole Biome
(World Gen Layouts: UndergroundForest, PleasantSinkhole, RabbitTown, RabbitCity, SpiderLand, RabbitSpiderWar)
rocks				40.00%
flint				16.67%
goldnugget			10.00%
nitre				16.67%
guano				16.67%

Marsh Biome
(World Gen Layouts: SwampySinkhole, CaveSwamp)
rocks				66.67%
flint				33.33%
tentaclespots			0.00%

 

Boulderbough Vine Loot - Any Biomes Not Listed Above

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Default
(World Gen Layouts: Any Layouts Not Listed Above)
rocks				94.07%
redgem				2.35%
bluegem				2.35%
purplegem			0.94%
yellowgem			0.09%
orangegem			0.09%
greengem			0.09%

 

Note:
- Any loot with a 0% chance means it was commented out in the code.  So, it currently doesn't drop, but may possibly return in the future?
- There is an extra loot modifier that's currently unused.  It appears to add silk to the loot pool if the Boulderbough is on web creep.
- The loot tables above are per Boulderbough Vine.  So, the loot is currently rolled 5 times.

I forgot to ask: For the fumerole biome, are the increased gem chances unlocked forever after opening shadow rifts for the first time?

Or, is it only when a shadow rift is open and active, for trees you plant in the ground after a rift opens?

[Strong Wendy]

If you throw the Celestial Tribute into the center of the whirlpool, it will make the Celestial Tribute unrecoverable with the Pinchin' Winch, and you will not be able to fight the Celestial Champion in this save file.

[Radicaljoe]

On 9/6/2025 at 1:45 PM, Echsrick said:

why downgrate? thats sad

People thought too hard and thought Wilson was gonna be like, a part of some prophecy from a million years ago.

But no, it was just a funny mask that looked like him that people overthought too much.

[Captain_Rage]

On 9/6/2025 at 10:28 AM, KvetekSK said:

This change makes me so sad, my favorite Wilson mask is gone 😭

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! The previous Visionist's Mask was so nice. :v 

[Cruvimaster]

On 9/5/2025 at 10:52 PM, Maxil20 said:

A personal favorite of mine are the cavern and mud turf biomes, because the loot they can dig up includes fossils!

Fossils were relevant to me before the devs changed the spacing between them. To fight AFW, I only need 8. So they've become pretty irrelevant.

[Mike23Ua]

4 hours ago, Radicaljoe said:

People thought too hard and thought Wilson was gonna be like, a part of some prophecy from a million years ago.

But no, it was just a funny mask that looked like him that people overthought too much.

Actually (& yes you can chalk this one up to me being a DC & Marvel Fan..)

Wanda existing in the game at all & her whole “Break All The Timelines” Gimmick COULD make Wilson the creator, which in turn: would explain why Maxwell has always despised the guy & wanted to watch him suffer, Meanwhile Wilson has no idea that’s what he Was or Will Become.

You guys really should watch more super hero movies & cartoons.. Im sure Klei had a reason why it resembled Wilson at first before the art change.

And because I know people like to make $$ I’m also highly positive the changed art design will become a skin you can buy for it. 😂

Edited September 8, 2025 by Mike23Ua

[Echsrick]

4 hours ago, Radicaljoe said:

People thought too hard and thought Wilson was gonna be like, a part of some prophecy from a million years ago.

But no, it was just a funny mask that looked like him that people overthought too much.

but character quotes

[wormwood123]

3 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

 

You guys really should watch more super hero movies & cartoons.. 

i do and this still really doesn't make this a compelling story beat because time loop stuff is so bad when done wrong and would feel forced