Edible Coal Posted June 29, 2025 Share Posted June 29, 2025 is that a bug? i cant imagine it being intentional for any reason. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166754-why-is-warbot-and-scion-unable-to-be-wet/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumber64 Posted June 29, 2025 Share Posted June 29, 2025 You mean they aren't wet when it's raining? Pretty much no mobs respond to water balloons. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166754-why-is-warbot-and-scion-unable-to-be-wet/#findComment-1824734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcwell Posted June 29, 2025 Share Posted June 29, 2025 (edited) Warbot can be wet but is immune to electric damage. (EDIT: more accurate to say immune to the bonus damage from electricity, but that's what the tag is called) Scion is wet immune. Both of these are from specific tags, so yes, they're intentional. Source: Spoiler From wagboss_robot.lua: From alterguardian_phase4_lunarrift.lua: Edited June 29, 2025 by Arcwell 5 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166754-why-is-warbot-and-scion-unable-to-be-wet/#findComment-1824736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxil20 Posted June 29, 2025 Share Posted June 29, 2025 29 minutes ago, Arcwell said: Warbot can be wet but is immune to electric damage. Scion is wet immune Oh so that’s why I felt chaud froid felt particularly underwhelming for that boss fight… 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166754-why-is-warbot-and-scion-unable-to-be-wet/#findComment-1824737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edible Coal Posted June 29, 2025 Author Share Posted June 29, 2025 is such a odd thing ngl, do the dev just secretly hate warly and think hes op 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166754-why-is-warbot-and-scion-unable-to-be-wet/#findComment-1824750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruvimaster Posted June 29, 2025 Share Posted June 29, 2025 5 hours ago, Edible Coal said: is such a odd thing ngl, do the dev just secretly hate warly and think hes op We all know that Warly has never been the problem with this recipe. If you were exclusive to Warly or that much less bonus to other characters, Volt Goat Chaud-Froid wouldn't be so broken. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166754-why-is-warbot-and-scion-unable-to-be-wet/#findComment-1824781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumber64 Posted June 29, 2025 Share Posted June 29, 2025 9 hours ago, Arcwell said: Scion is wet immune. Seems weird that scion would be if CC isn't. It has less of a physical form, but there's still wires. You'd think they'd just give it the same electric immunity. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166754-why-is-warbot-and-scion-unable-to-be-wet/#findComment-1824786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybers2001 Posted June 29, 2025 Share Posted June 29, 2025 4 hours ago, Cruvimaster said: We all know that Warly has never been the problem with this recipe. If you were exclusive to Warly or that much less bonus to other characters, Volt Goat Chaud-Froid wouldn't be so broken. Still gives a reason to suffer through playing Warly for the benefit in a team environment. If you're talking specifically about character-swapping, which basically gives players the best of both worlds, then that's a different problem altogether. Nerfing chaud-froid isn't the way to go about this, imo. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166754-why-is-warbot-and-scion-unable-to-be-wet/#findComment-1824805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted June 29, 2025 Share Posted June 29, 2025 Why are Merms wet and Toadstool and Frogs not?.. 16 hours ago, Arcwell said: Warbot может быть мокрым, но невосприимчив к электрическому урону. (РЕДАКТИРОВАТЬ: правильнее сказать «невосприимчив к бонусному урону от электричества», но именно так называется тег) Scion обладает иммунитетом к влаге. Оба этих свойства относятся к определённым тегам, так что да, они выбраны намеренно. Источник: Раскрыть скрытое содержимое Из файла wagboss_robot.lua: Из файла alterguardian_phase4_lunarrift.lua: Cool boss... Now this unrealistically long fight can't be shortened with gunpowder, warly food... all that remains is to choose Wolfgang to kill him. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166754-why-is-warbot-and-scion-unable-to-be-wet/#findComment-1824838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waywarbler Posted June 29, 2025 Share Posted June 29, 2025 1 hour ago, Hungry French said: Cool boss... Now this unrealistically long fight can't be shortened with gunpowder, warly food... Because as we all know, real life WARBOTs and Celestial Scions are much more fragile than DST depicts them. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166754-why-is-warbot-and-scion-unable-to-be-wet/#findComment-1824848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenomeSquirrel Posted June 30, 2025 Share Posted June 30, 2025 6 hours ago, Hungry French said: Why are Merms wet and Toadstool and Frogs not?.. Something involving cutaneous respiration and mucus … Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166754-why-is-warbot-and-scion-unable-to-be-wet/#findComment-1824884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antynomity Posted June 30, 2025 Share Posted June 30, 2025 23 hours ago, Edible Coal said: is such a odd thing ngl, do the dev just secretly hate warly and think hes op In all honesty, the Chaud Froid should have been nerfed long ago. Feel like it has absolutely destroyed a lot of design space for both new items and bosses. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166754-why-is-warbot-and-scion-unable-to-be-wet/#findComment-1824909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumber64 Posted June 30, 2025 Share Posted June 30, 2025 (edited) 7 hours ago, Antynomity said: In all honesty, the Chaud Froid should have been nerfed long ago. Feel like it has absolutely destroyed a lot of design space for both new items and bosses. Wolfgang should have been. He gets the same effect for free, before considering that it stacks. Then they added planar damage, which lowers the effectiveness of damage multipliers. Of course Wolfgang needed free planar damage to account for that. Wouldn't want him losing his lead on the other characters at any point in time. Edited June 30, 2025 by Bumber64 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166754-why-is-warbot-and-scion-unable-to-be-wet/#findComment-1824961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzyGames Posted July 1, 2025 Share Posted July 1, 2025 I mean, I'm not completely against the idea of rebalancing volt goat jelly but nerfing it against a single boss doesn't seem like the play? I'm not too concerned, honestly. Warly will get some nice planar powder on his skill tree that he can snort before zapping the moon. 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166754-why-is-warbot-and-scion-unable-to-be-wet/#findComment-1825044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semind Posted July 1, 2025 Share Posted July 1, 2025 (edited) I feel like it's not an accident that the boss was introduced and given electricity immunity along with stated plans to introduce a shocked state. I don't think it was a decision to specifically target volt jelly. Edited July 1, 2025 by Semind 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166754-why-is-warbot-and-scion-unable-to-be-wet/#findComment-1825066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzyGames Posted July 1, 2025 Share Posted July 1, 2025 55 minutes ago, Semind said: I feel like it's not an accident that the boss was introduced and given electricity immunity along with stated plans to introduce a shocked state. I don't think it was a decision to specifically target volt jelly. I mean, how cool would it have been to be able to use electricity to temporarily stun/overload? 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166754-why-is-warbot-and-scion-unable-to-be-wet/#findComment-1825074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybers2001 Posted July 1, 2025 Share Posted July 1, 2025 (edited) 14 hours ago, Bumber64 said: Wolfgang should have been. He gets the same effect for free, before considering that it stacks. Then they added planar damage, which lowers the effectiveness of damage multipliers. Of course Wolfgang needed free planar damage to account for that. Wouldn't want him losing his lead on the other characters at any point in time. He already loses to Winona in most boss fights. And she doesn't even need Warly foods. Edited July 1, 2025 by cybers2001 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166754-why-is-warbot-and-scion-unable-to-be-wet/#findComment-1825078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edible Coal Posted July 1, 2025 Author Share Posted July 1, 2025 3 hours ago, cybers2001 said: He already loses to Winona in most boss fights. And she doesn't even need Warly foods. Winona need to prep tons of rock, shards, brilliance , docks while wolfgang stand stills for 7 sec to get that Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166754-why-is-warbot-and-scion-unable-to-be-wet/#findComment-1825093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybers2001 Posted July 1, 2025 Share Posted July 1, 2025 (edited) 6 hours ago, Edible Coal said: Winona need to prep tons of rock, shards, brilliance , docks while wolfgang stand stills for 7 sec to get that Docks? Yeah Winona is more of an investment, but after the first year of building up my arsenal I can bundle it up and take it with me pretty easily. Chaud Froid isn't a year-1 food, either. You also need to prep a lot of materials to build a Warly kitchen, and 1 goat horn per boss fight is expensive. Edited July 1, 2025 by cybers2001 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166754-why-is-warbot-and-scion-unable-to-be-wet/#findComment-1825172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edible Coal Posted July 1, 2025 Author Share Posted July 1, 2025 10 minutes ago, cybers2001 said: Docks? Yeah Winona is more of an investment, but after the first year of building up my arsenal I can bundle it up and take it with me pretty easily. well is a investment thing, some like it and some would rather just fight it normally as wolfgang Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166754-why-is-warbot-and-scion-unable-to-be-wet/#findComment-1825176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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