Valase Posted April 29, 2025 Share Posted April 29, 2025 I wish that we had an even smaller world config. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165526-is-it-me-or-dsts-mainland-is-unnecessarily-big-by-default/page/2/#findComment-1814471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilsonHiggs Posted April 29, 2025 Share Posted April 29, 2025 2 hours ago, Cyrefy said: The worst thing is that the biomes repeat themselves, I think there could be more than one type of savannas, maybe another species of a being equivalent to the beefalo, a second option for mounting, it would be a good start. They could even add more sprites without changing functions like how we have twigs and moon twigs There are many things that, together, can the world feel alive and worth exploring Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165526-is-it-me-or-dsts-mainland-is-unnecessarily-big-by-default/page/2/#findComment-1814482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle Posted April 29, 2025 Share Posted April 29, 2025 Haha, had no idea that world settings barely made a difference. It seems like underground caves size makes more of a difference? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165526-is-it-me-or-dsts-mainland-is-unnecessarily-big-by-default/page/2/#findComment-1814483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tothewaywhite Posted May 2, 2025 Share Posted May 2, 2025 big means more resources. but they are not balanced. like killerbee hive biome which is really important but even not always generate. like warlus camp or important gold rock. Wood, grass and twigs are always enough but reeds are always not enough (before monkey island) and setting them "crazy" makes them everwhere and lesser than crazy will sometimes cause it just still not enough. i will call it a dilimma. you choose small world and struggle in the start, or you choose big map with everything enough but you still need to running here and there to get them. big means more resources. but they are not balanced. like killerbee hive biome which is really important but even not always generate. like warlus camp or important gold rock. Wood, grass and twigs are always enough but reeds are always not enough (before monkey island) and setting them "crazy" makes them everwhere and lesser than crazy will sometimes cause it just still not enough. i will call it a dilimma. you choose small world and struggle in the start, or you choose big map with everything enough but you still need to running here and there to get them. 1 minute ago, tothewaywhite said: big means more resources. but they are not balanced. like killerbee hive biome which is really important but even not always generate. like warlus camp or important gold rock. Wood, grass and twigs are always enough but reeds are always not enough (before monkey island) and setting them "crazy" makes them everwhere and lesser than crazy will sometimes cause it just still not enough. i will call it a dilimma. you choose small world and struggle in the start, or you choose big map with everything enough but you still need to running here and there to get them. big means more resources. but they are not balanced. like killerbee hive biome which is really important but even not always generate. like warlus camp or important gold rock. Wood, grass and twigs are always enough but reeds are always not enough (before monkey island) and setting them "crazy" makes them everwhere and lesser than crazy will sometimes cause it just still not enough. i will call it a dilimma. you choose small world and struggle in the start, or you choose big map with everything enough but you still need to running here and there to get them. weird bug it doubled Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165526-is-it-me-or-dsts-mainland-is-unnecessarily-big-by-default/page/2/#findComment-1814764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popian Posted May 2, 2025 Share Posted May 2, 2025 On 4/29/2025 at 6:24 AM, WilsonHiggs said: Nah, more space for new content Same with the caves, is just empty space but, since the game is being updated is a good thing that they can add new stuff easily Except when you look at how things retrofit, the content tends to be isolated because the space wasn't properly reserved. Even the ocean doesn't have safe space to put new things when we can do things like plant trees and make bridges and race courses. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165526-is-it-me-or-dsts-mainland-is-unnecessarily-big-by-default/page/2/#findComment-1814766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Darks Posted May 2, 2025 Share Posted May 2, 2025 I honestly quite like the way DST worldgen is. Might be the only one though. However. Why are there SO MANY savannah biomes??? For what reason? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165526-is-it-me-or-dsts-mainland-is-unnecessarily-big-by-default/page/2/#findComment-1814787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Waffles Posted May 2, 2025 Share Posted May 2, 2025 2 hours ago, Nikki Darks said: I honestly quite like the way DST worldgen is. Might be the only one though. However. Why are there SO MANY savannah biomes??? For what reason? And it's always the biggest biome on the map. Please reduce the size or at least add a cool set piece because for rn it just ruins my worlds since it's always a branch to a useful biome Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165526-is-it-me-or-dsts-mainland-is-unnecessarily-big-by-default/page/2/#findComment-1814795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted May 2, 2025 Share Posted May 2, 2025 For me the size of the continent reflects on survival and exploration of the map, which is probably one of big early to midgame things to experience. I enjoy it a lot and I'd say that the map's size is not big enough (ocean wise) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165526-is-it-me-or-dsts-mainland-is-unnecessarily-big-by-default/page/2/#findComment-1814800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RozeMeteor Posted May 2, 2025 Share Posted May 2, 2025 6 hours ago, Nikki Darks said: I honestly quite like the way DST worldgen is. Might be the only one though. However. Why are there SO MANY savannah biomes??? For what reason? Also why is the second deciduous so big if it have nothing.. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165526-is-it-me-or-dsts-mainland-is-unnecessarily-big-by-default/page/2/#findComment-1814808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antynomity Posted May 2, 2025 Share Posted May 2, 2025 NOTHING EVER HAPPENS Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165526-is-it-me-or-dsts-mainland-is-unnecessarily-big-by-default/page/2/#findComment-1814831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FillerText Posted May 2, 2025 Share Posted May 2, 2025 Original DS feels like being forced onto some small far-away island while DST kinda just feels like some pocket dimension with all the aspects it has. I absolutely love how "the sea" looked like in DS. Although I don't mind the feel of DST. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165526-is-it-me-or-dsts-mainland-is-unnecessarily-big-by-default/page/2/#findComment-1814852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranoze Posted May 4, 2025 Share Posted May 4, 2025 On 4/29/2025 at 11:47 AM, Keller Max said: be reduced by 40–50% and we wouldn't lose anything important. How many players do you often play with? Cus with 12 players i see the land are not large enough. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165526-is-it-me-or-dsts-mainland-is-unnecessarily-big-by-default/page/2/#findComment-1814968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edible Coal Posted May 4, 2025 Share Posted May 4, 2025 50 minutes ago, Tranoze said: How many players do you often play with? Cus with 12 players i see the land are not large enough. literally everyone idle in base 90% of the time Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165526-is-it-me-or-dsts-mainland-is-unnecessarily-big-by-default/page/2/#findComment-1814975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keller Max Posted May 4, 2025 Author Share Posted May 4, 2025 3 hours ago, Tranoze said: How many players do you often play with? Cus with 12 players i see the land are not large enough. 12 Players is already an overpopulated server. But even then they should have more than enough resources on a default size world. But in my experience, that bunch don't go further than 1.5 biomes from their main base, so they are permanently starved on basic resources. Love your "Place Statues" mod btw! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165526-is-it-me-or-dsts-mainland-is-unnecessarily-big-by-default/page/2/#findComment-1814981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceShiki Posted May 4, 2025 Share Posted May 4, 2025 I think 2 Savannahs have the benefit of more Beefalo Herds, so it's not bad to have more than one. 2 Decidious Forests are nice for new players because they're a source of Birchnuts, which is a self-sufficient souce of food that the player can easily get on the first autumn, so a new player may feel useful while getting wood and getting their own food... Granted, they may suddenly feel lost when Winter comes and they can no longer get Birchnuts, but having 2 sources of Birchnuts is good for new players IMO, as it increases the chances of them actually finding the Deciduous Forest. So... I personally don't find a problem with those two biomes being duplicated, but I don't disagree with the idea that they could have more stuff in them... Kinda like how we have the Dragonfly Desert and the Oasis Desert, we could also have the Diciduous 1 and Deciduous 2 that have something that makes them different, as well as Savannah 1 and Savannah 2 that have something that makes them different. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165526-is-it-me-or-dsts-mainland-is-unnecessarily-big-by-default/page/2/#findComment-1814990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranoze Posted May 4, 2025 Share Posted May 4, 2025 2 hours ago, Keller Max said: 12 Players is already an overpopulated server. But even then they should have more than enough resources on a default size world. But in my experience, that bunch don't go further than 1.5 biomes from their main base, so they are permanently starved on basic resources. Im really just curious asking how many players often play in the server you playing so that you feel that way. Play dst can be whole different experience base on how many you play with and how skillful they are. I want the server to be populated, but also dont want too many player within 2 screen around me, unless in a boss fight or when we hang around before doing something big. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165526-is-it-me-or-dsts-mainland-is-unnecessarily-big-by-default/page/2/#findComment-1814995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keller Max Posted May 4, 2025 Author Share Posted May 4, 2025 42 minutes ago, Tranoze said: Im really just curious asking how many players often play in the server you playing so that you feel that way. Play dst can be whole different experience base on how many you play with and how skillful they are. I want the server to be populated, but also dont want too many player within 2 screen around me, unless in a boss fight or when we hang around before doing something big. 4-6 on average. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165526-is-it-me-or-dsts-mainland-is-unnecessarily-big-by-default/page/2/#findComment-1814999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted May 4, 2025 Share Posted May 4, 2025 On 4/29/2025 at 7:47 AM, Keller Max said: Клянусь, размер главного острова можно было бы уменьшить на 40–50%, и мы бы ничего важного не потеряли. В большинстве биомов недостаточно ресурсов или мобов, чтобы оправдать их огромные размеры — гигантские болота, гигантские саванны, гигантские каменистые земли, гигантские леса. Они просто занимают место на карте, которое можно было бы заполнить другими биомами или дополнительными островами. The map is big because it's Together. I want a small card, play DS or don't play or accept it . Klei doesn't give you a choice Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165526-is-it-me-or-dsts-mainland-is-unnecessarily-big-by-default/page/2/#findComment-1815005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fochive00 Posted May 4, 2025 Share Posted May 4, 2025 My friends and I actually feel the opposite—we dream of a world map much, much larger than the current one. A map so vast that we’d need to stock up on supplies and embark on long journeys just to reach a different region, like a true continent. That would be incredibly fun, unlike the small, fast-paced maps that feel more like a quick snack than a real adventure. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165526-is-it-me-or-dsts-mainland-is-unnecessarily-big-by-default/page/2/#findComment-1815006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilsonHiggs Posted May 4, 2025 Share Posted May 4, 2025 37 minutes ago, Hungry French said: The map is big because it's Together. I want a small card, play DS or don't play. Klei doesn't give you a choice I wish you follow your own advices Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165526-is-it-me-or-dsts-mainland-is-unnecessarily-big-by-default/page/2/#findComment-1815012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted May 4, 2025 Share Posted May 4, 2025 1 minute ago, WilsonHiggs said: I wish you follow your own advices ? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165526-is-it-me-or-dsts-mainland-is-unnecessarily-big-by-default/page/2/#findComment-1815015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keller Max Posted May 4, 2025 Author Share Posted May 4, 2025 50 minutes ago, Hungry French said: The map is big because it's Together. I want a small card, play DS or don't play. Klei doesn't give you a choice It's not about the size of the map. It's more about biomes being too big and too poor on variety. Like giant Savanna for example. It's just grass and bunnies. Do you really need that much grass and bunnies? You don't! After exploring it once, you will most likely never touch 80% of that biome. So I wish Klei would reduce the size of those biomes, until they add another new biomes or islands. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165526-is-it-me-or-dsts-mainland-is-unnecessarily-big-by-default/page/2/#findComment-1815018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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