Power Creep Victim: War Saddle

[Elpida]

Before Nightmare Saddle, War Saddle was ultimate saddle for fighting on Beefalo and it was worth to do anything to obtain the crafting material
Since Nightmare saddle added to game, I feel going after war saddle is totally pointless and waste of time, mainly because getting steel wool is purely based on RNG
While going after nightmare saddle involves little RNG and can be crafted in about 40-50 days or even less if you are good and eventually this is the saddle we are going to make and use, either with war saddle on hand or not.

My point is War Saddle now is just a temporary saddle and I think it should be more accessible with much less RNG.
What you guys think about this?

I like to have a reliable way to obtain steel wool, a new mob or plant that drops steel wool
or a guaranteed trap set piece that contains an ewecus, like a sleeping ewecus while activation it wakes up and attacks player (it can be on lunar island or in caves if it's too easy for surface)
idk... you might have better ideas

[DegenerateFurry]

If you enable Year of the Bunnyman, you can deconstruct the event's steel wool pillows for steel wool. 

[Elpida]

most players aren't host, changing settings isn't available for all
with settings can set rifts on always and make nightmare saddle right away

[ZeRoboButler]

Honestly it would so nice to just have more uses for steel wool, (or the phlegm in the form of traps or cc items, but that seems to be a gross joke more than anything).

I suppose the War Saddle is a bit of a hassle, can't recall the last time I either wanted it, used it or crafted it. The war saddle and weather pains are some of the more bothersome stuff to get to the point that I do everything in my power to not use them or find an alternative. The components are entirely to blame for this sort of thing, steel wool and horns, the only time I have a brush for a beef is if the klaus sack gave it to me.

[Guille6785]

guaranteed ewecus would be pretty nice imo

[Frosty_Mentos]

That's what I mean when I said that Ewecus needs a more accessible herds somewhere. Hunting for it is annoying and RNG based, the lategame saddle is so much better but the war saddle is expensive and feels pointless.

Having extensions of crafting for steel would would also be nice.

Having better access towards making beefalo brush would be extremely nice considering the unreasonably expensive recipe it has.

[lowercase skye]

Nightmare Saddle is post-rifts and requires you to defeat multiple major bosses on the way there, all bosses that you won't have the nightmare saddle for your fights with, and this is assuming you even go for shadow rifts first before lunar ones. I don't think this is a problem.

[Violet Desiree]

ama be 100% honest i just assumed you needed the war saddle in order to upgrade it to the nigthmare saddle ive just been swapping between the gloomer and war depending on what i am doing in the server at the time

Like it was a specialization type thing similar on how the beefalo like brush its the rider version of the walking cane

[Elpida]

2 minutes ago, Frosty_Mentos said:

Ewecus needs a more accessible herds somewhere. Hunting for it is annoying and RNG based,

Yup
Hunting ewecus is indeed annoying plus when I'm doing it I'm likely in middle of taming process and must dismount each time to investigate dirt pile. this makes the hunting tedious
Tho this price was OK to pay for ultimate fighting saddle that I'd ride and fight on it for entire game, but not for temporary one
 

 

18 minutes ago, lowercase skye said:

Nightmare Saddle is post-rifts and requires you to defeat multiple major bosses on the way there, all bosses that you won't have the nightmare saddle for your fights with, and this is assuming you even go for shadow rifts first before lunar ones. I don't think this is a problem.

Point is getting nightmare saddle is straight forward and is the final saddle, no matter how much it costs, it's the path we are taking.
Finding Chess pieces, comes at at zero cost cause we are exploring map anyway
Fighting Shadow Chess pieces isn't hard thing tbf (also we are doing it anyway to beat FW)
Exploring caves for AG on beefalo is much easier and safe and the fight is easy and fun + good loot (same as above)
We fight NPig for sake of dread stone helmets
And finally we fight FW (yup this one is a challenge) for sake of fighting FW, opening rift and regenerate ruins
Ink blights, fun fight, for taters for void gear
now with all those done, we can craft nightmare saddle, basically no time is spend on saddle other than converting an atrium heart to possessed, all the other tasks required will get done anyway
but war saddle right now is not the final goal, it's a temporary saddle that you might spend a season to find an ewecus
the time that you could just spend on Main Goal (above tasks) and achieve them even faster
The RNG fact for not best saddle in game, makes it pointless to spend time for it

Default saddle is cheap and available in early game, still has it's value
Glossamer is fastest saddle, still has it's value
War Saddle, lost it's value to next saddle, to get it you need luck, RNG is the obstacle you can't move, I haven't seen anyone craft it since nightmare saddle added to game
Nightmare saddle, yes there are bosses you have to go through them but these are obstacles you can move unlike RNG

Btw, if you are playing with others, it's likely to see people have done some parts, even killed FW, because killing FW and opening rift is a thing for itself.

[Steorra]

Yes it's quite strange and funny - the War saddle already become useless in endgame, and once you consider the ewecus spawning problem, you may think that the War Saddle could even be more expensive than Shadow Saddle. Since for experienced player the Shadow Saddle could be obtained in around day 35, but the War Saddle might delayed after day 80 (and consuming lots of time by rng).

And even the War Saddle setting in such embarrassing situation, it still become a scapegoat these days for blaming the DPS imbalance of Wendy. People tend to use War Saddle Wendy as an example to prove that Wendy's DPS of Beefalo is broken and need rebalance, while they would never admit that the War Saddle is extremely expensive.

[DegenerateFurry]

They could fix this by just making the Nightmare Saddle require a War Saddle to craft in addition to the current recipe.

[Steorra]

51 minutes ago, DegenerateFurry said:

They could fix this by just making the Nightmare Saddle require a War Saddle to craft in addition to the current recipe.

This would be strange, since their aesthetic appearance have no relation.

[SilverSpoon]

1 hour ago, DegenerateFurry said:

They could fix this by just making the Nightmare Saddle require a War Saddle to craft in addition to the current recipe.

Does it have lower Damage than a War Saddle though used as material for a War Saddle?!

... Oh, there was a precedent for Scalemail.

[Tranoze]

4 hours ago, Elpida said:

War Saddle was ultimate saddle for fighting on Beefalo

I'd say it was mid. Wearing war saddle making you have lower move speed compare to all other saddles. So unless you fight toad or gang on dfly, it better to just use gloss saddle, as more movespeed = easier dodge.

That why i dont bother crafting war saddle before nightmare saddle was introduced. Even if i have one in my inventory, i only swap them when fighting stationary enemies, like toad, cuz it doesnt worth the time me go down, swap saddle, pick up saddle, go up... while i can just keep my finger in WASD and press F.