[Game Update] - 645651

[KhaosKhaos]

So what's the point of Lunar Abby now when Shadow provides way more utility AND damage now..? I think Lunar should have it's attack rate doubled while keeping it's previous damage output but without the old survivability. Because at that point you might as well use Shadow Aligned and still have the same DPS output as previous Lunar Abby.

[2222bao]

as a wendy ply,i really dont understand why you guys like this change for wd?im rly upsetfor dst with the change for wendy ,i better play wendy from community.this vote is for Chinese dst plys......

[2222bao]

2 hours ago, WenericMember said:

"Since you all agreed Willow outshines Wendy in every way, Wendy is now a Willow reskin"

really really upset for wendy

[-Variant]

8 hours ago, Jason said:

Ya, using it on the hat is not ideal. But we'd made the choice to make right click use the elixir on Abigail, so there were few good options.

Question, is it possible, or ideal, to maybe have it be context/situation specific?

Say I give potions to a non-Wendy character, since they can't have Abi, could it be a right click action for them?
Additionally, for other Wendy players, would it be possible to have the right click effect consume the potion if Abi's flower isn't in your inventory?

And/or keep the hat portion, but also let you drag the drink to your player to consume it, as you would another food item?

[siullajirafa]

9 hours ago, Hollow soul 3 said:

Will there be any update on the console controls for Wortox's teleport?

KLEI PLEASE, give console some love :c

[IAmAFurrz]

7 hours ago, Grinek said:

OMG the Lardee propaganda got into his brain! quick! get him to the hospital!

i already MADE 3 paragraphs of how i disliked the skill tree before the video. not everyone who agrees with a ytber is just 'following what they say'

[Peasant]

1 hour ago, KhaosKhaos said:

So what's the point of Lunar Abby now when Shadow provides way more utility AND damage now..? I think Lunar should have it's attack rate doubled while keeping it's previous damage output but without the old survivability. Because at that point you might as well use Shadow Aligned and still have the same DPS output as previous Lunar Abby.

Both planar damage and survival ability is monopolized by lunar alignment, that's the point, I guess?

[Lee lol]

7 hours ago, arubaro said:

 

 

她的 gestal 形态需要削弱，但她仍然得到了一个荒谬的好处，如果她在 hp 超过 25% 时得到一枪，并且不会死亡，也就是在安全距离内，当你让她走低 hp 时

你真的认为在任何电子游戏中都有这种被动和不熟练的击败 Boss 的空间吗？您是否知道您正在玩一款多年前以困难而闻名的游戏？

如果在第 31 天不庆祝获得独眼巨鹿，也许你应该继续玩，而不是对显然比你更了解游戏的开发者如此无礼

Try using Gestalt defeating lunar bear with abi alive now.

3 hours ago, KhaosKhaos said:

So what's the point of Lunar Abby now when Shadow provides way more utility AND damage now..? I think Lunar should have it's attack rate doubled while keeping it's previous damage output but without the old survivability. Because at that point you might as well use Shadow Aligned and still have the same DPS output as previous Lunar Abby.

Either nerf damage or nerf survival, you can't nerf both, and now Gestalt lacks both damage and survivability

[HellHeater]

12 hours ago, V2C said:

Level 2: Craft hat made from Mourning Glory that lets the wearer drink Elixirs. These have similar but lesser effects than when used on a pure ghost.

Does vigor mortis give the player the zoomies? 

[WenericMember]

1 minute ago, HellHeater said:

Does vigor mortis give the player the zoomies? 

It negates movement pemalties, like piggyback and carrying heavy objects.

[Bumber64]

11 hours ago, aidankocherhans said:

Considering how many reserve souls you can hold and how easy soul spike makes farming, it probably won't be that big of a deal

But why go with the naughty inclination at that point? Naughty already comes with a downside of negating sanity from released souls, correct?

It might be better to just get what you want out of naughty branch, then take just enough nice skills to reach neutral. You'll lose sanity from eating souls, but will gain that back plus un-nerfed healing for releasing them.

You just have to give up soul decoy, of course. But you get reverb and capricious movement.

Edited December 7, 2024 by Bumber64

[Soul7k]

12 minutes ago, Bumber64 said:

But why go with the naughty inclination at that point? Naughty already comes with a downside of negating sanity from released souls, correct?

It might be better to just get what you want out of naughty branch, then take just enough nice skills to reach neutral. You'll lose sanity from eating souls, but will gain that back plus un-nerfed healing for releasing them.

You just have to give up soul decoy, of course.

the naughty side has never been very enticing. right now the benefit is essentially rewarding bad habits which would be overcapping souls... if they are going to reduce the healing he gets and make him more selfish it should give him at least a 25% damage bump on stuff from his tree(souls,scythe buff, clone explosion, etc) better sanity management is...ok, but compared to neutral mobs it kinda falls flat

personally I am running a neutral build so neither side benefits me

Edited December 7, 2024 by Soul7k

[Sacco]

7 hours ago, arubaro said:

 

 

Her gestal form needed a nerf and still she got the absurd perk of not dying if she gets one shot when above 25% hp and not atacking, aka being in a safe distance, when you let her go low hp

Do you really think that in any videogame there is room for such passive and unskilled way of beating bosses? Are you aware you are playing a game that was known for being difficult years ago?

If dont celebrate getting deerclops at day 31 maybe you should keep playing instead of being such irrespecful to the devs who, clearly, know about the game way better than you

He is the ordinary player who is crying because klei decides to not make abigail invulnerable against bosses.

That's it, they want an op Abi against bosses and don't make an effort tonkill them.

[Arkon4]

All these changes are very cool and interesting...but very unfair to the first three skill trees of Wormwood, Walfgang and Woody 

They look, in relation to the new ones, as if you got your hands on the first characters, because you have to spend precious skill points on skills like "can do it 10% faster" so that later also open the skill "do it 20% faster" 

For example, the same Wormwood, yes, he was given a better version on the release of his skills, but for example, his lower left branch with craft, in my opinion, it does not make sense to spend 5 skill points on it , for the sake of a fleshy bulb that no one needs, because there are plenty of them in the world, like branches, the only benefit is monkey tails 

Syrup of ipecac (sorry, I'm translating through google translator), as well as the ability to break traps when the Wormwood blooms.....this...just doesn't apply, I think it should be combined with the ability to a piercing that deals damage 

I could give some more examples of soooo situational things like for example carrot rat and vine trap when wearing proni from light flower (because this skill mostly interferes because of which you just get on the head) but I want to say that everything I wrote above is purely my opinion, as a player who has been playing wormwood for 5 years, but I would like to see something interesting and unique in his skills, such as a box for holding elixirs in Wendy, or her grave (I give her examples because she still has the most beautiful and interesting things) 

For example, you could make something like a drop of life from Hamlet with which he could plant a seed in the ground and after 10-20 game days it would grow into his clone, but it seems that he grows as salt deep after which after death he would live in that body Or he could plant this seed in the altar, after which it would grow and recover faster 

Thanks to everyone who read, I would like to hear feedback) 

 

[Waywarbler]

10 minutes ago, liz. said:

蠢蛋，Idiot，Идиот，Estúpido

What is posting this supposed to accomplish?

[Waywarbler]

2 minutes ago, liz. said:

骂

Okay... and what does that accomplish? Do you think that's going to help the developers improve Wendy? Do you think they're going to see that and say "oh no, we need to rollback these changes"?

[Bumber64]

56 minutes ago, Waywarbler said:

What is posting this supposed to accomplish?

Getting banned, probably.

Edited December 7, 2024 by Bumber64
And there they go.

[Kvetevk]

Wortox got more dmg with shadow reaper
and walter got planar ammo

Does wendy have a good strategy or perk to deal with the planar mobs?
since the gestalt abi got nerfed

[RussoDaFederal]

1 hour ago, Arkon4 said:

Syrup of ipecac (sorry, I'm translating through google translator), as well as the ability to break traps when the Wormwood blooms.....this...just doesn't apply, I think it should be combined with the ability to a piercing that deals damage 

I don't really understand this part, are you saying these two skills are bad? Cause my brother is a Wormwood main and he uses those skills a lot. The traps one is especially useful when we don't feel like fighting lunar deerclops (this fight is a pain ngl) so we run around in circles and make it die on a huge trap field. It's just useful in general too, deactivating traps is tedious

1 hour ago, KvetekSK said:

Wortox got more dmg with shadow reaper
and walter got planar ammo

Does wendy have a good strategy or perk to deal with the planar mobs?
since the gestalt abi got nerfed

I wish gestalt and shadow Abi had planar damage instead of just a regular damage buff, but tbh pre skill tree Wendy could already handle planar mobs without too much trouble using the void set. And I don't even use the void armor, I use the bone armor instead, so I don't get the second damage boost (which is minimal let's be honest). Considering Abigail's max damage (40) and the shadow reaper average damage with the void cowl (41.8 regular, 35 planar, twice per second), plus the vex, which increases Wendy's damage by 40%, and everyone's damage by 10% (yes, they stack), you get basically this formula:

dps = dmg * 2 * 0.75 * 1.4 * 1.1 + 40

This results in around 136.56 regular and 80.85 planar damage per second, a total of 217.41. That's a good dps in my book. For comparison, Wes' dps with the void cowl and shadow reaper is 114.75, Wilson's is 153.6 and Wolfgang's is 307.2. With the vex potion and murder damage bonus, Wendy's dps reaches 273.54 (vex elixir makes vex increase damage by 20% instead of 10% iirc)

Edited December 7, 2024 by RussoDaFederal
completely forgot about Wendy's 0.75 damage multiplier lol

[arubaro]

3 hours ago, Lee lol said:

Try using Gestalt defeating lunar bear with abi alive now.

So? Try using bernie against him, try using merms, try using spiders...

Do you think every perk should be flawless in every single scenario?? What would be the point of having -25% damage downside? You simply want to win without deserving it

[Lee lol]

2 minutes ago, arubaro said:

所以？试着用伯尼来对付他，试着用梅尔姆斯，试着用蜘蛛......

你认为每个 Benefits 在每个场景中都应该完美无瑕吗？？-25% 伤害的下行空间有什么意义呢？你只是想赢，但又不配

What's the point if Gestalt don't have advantage over shadow abi? If so , the design is a failure. Gestalt is more fragile with the post rift mob while her damage is equal to the normal abi, so what's the point of gestault?

[Koomin]

2 minutes ago, Lee lol said:

What's the point if Gestalt don't have advantage over shadow abi? If so , the design is a failure. Gestalt is more fragile with the post rift mob while her damage is equal to the normal abi, so what's the point of gestault?

Yep you are right - Shadow form currently needs to get tuned down a bit to match gestalt and make them equally viable

[Lee lol]

7 minutes ago, Lee lol said:

What's the point if Gestalt don't have advantage over shadow abi? If so , the design is a failure. Gestalt is more fragile with the post rift mob while her damage is equal to the normal abi, so what's the point of gestault?

13 minutes ago, arubaro said:

So? Try using bernie against him, try using merms, try using spiders...

Do you think every perk should be flawless in every single scenario?? What would be the point of having -25% damage downside? You simply want to win without deserving it

i definitely believe you are the one who don't deserve to win, btw, since you don't play Wendy i guess it's ok for you. Also, try to do some field research when giving your opinion, rather than saying something that makes people laugh at first glance

[Koomin]

2 minutes ago, Fitzee said:

I attempt to address this issue in a suggestion I made earlier, take a look:

 

Changing the double damage into double attack speed and also adding 10 planar damage would make it even stronger unless I'm misunderstanding your proposal (since they both equivalently do double dps, and then you are adding 10 more)?  I'd think just replacing the double damage with +10 planar damage or some other flat number without the attack speed doubling would make sense though.

Again, might have read it wrong, and think your thread is nicely constructive.

[arubaro]

5 minutes ago, Lee lol said:

i definitely believe you are the one who don't deserve to win, btw, since you don't play Wendy i guess it's ok for you. Also, try to do some field research when giving your opinion, rather than saying something that makes people laugh at first glance

I do play wendy for that i dont want her to be ruined by a bunch of people who dont want to play the game