Reiko24 Posted September 22, 2024 Share Posted September 22, 2024 Icker Preserve Kit: Cost - 5 dreadstone, 3 icker blobs Portability? - No Slots - 1 Accessibility - Post-rift Bundling Wrap: Cost - 1 wax paper, 1 rope Portability? - Yes Slots - 4 Accessibility - always, when you want to Yeah, it is SLIGHTLY more convenient because you do not need to rebundle stuff afterwards, but really, who doesn't bundle up ropes with their bundled items to rebundle it instantly afterwards anyways? The downside is almost nonexistent. It makes no sense for the Icker Preserve to be so weak and so expensive at the same time. Shouldn't the gel the food is stored inside dissolve it, and then using shadow magic reconstruct it when you want to pull it out? The mechanic would make the slots for the stored item infinite. Although the food would be covered in the icker goo I guess? Making the food give 5-10 sanity less. Using Elastispacer on the item to make it infinite does not make sense, since Shadow Magic and Lunar Magic do not play along. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159903-icker-preserve-kit-issues/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruvimaster Posted September 22, 2024 Share Posted September 22, 2024 We have 3 items that preserve food (Gift Wrap, Bundling Wrap and Polar Bearger Bin), but there is no item that restores spoilage of food. So I would like this feature more than increasing the storage capacity for Icker Preserve Kit. That would make it truly unique. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159903-icker-preserve-kit-issues/#findComment-1750164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiko24 Posted September 22, 2024 Author Share Posted September 22, 2024 Just now, Cruvimaster said: We have 3 items that preserve food (Gift Wrap, Bundling Wrap and Polar Bearger Bin), but there is no item that restores spoilage of food. So I would like this feature more than increasing the storage capacity for Icker Preserve Kit. That would make it truly unique. Yeah, that sounds good too! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159903-icker-preserve-kit-issues/#findComment-1750165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted September 22, 2024 Share Posted September 22, 2024 6 minutes ago, Cruvimaster said: We have 3 items that preserve food (Gift Wrap, Bundling Wrap and Polar Bearger Bin), but there is no item that restores spoilage of food. So I would like this feature more than increasing the storage capacity for Icker Preserve Kit. That would make it truly unique. Salt works for ingredients but needs a buff Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159903-icker-preserve-kit-issues/#findComment-1750166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADM Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 Probably just a "me problem" but one thing I find super annoying with the Icker Preserves is that they have collisions. In general containers don’t block movement, while this one in peculiar does not technically count as one, it still share the purpose of a storage unit and could be convenient to have anywhere but I find it too bulky to integrate in pre-built bases or farms. And seeing the stuff it’s made of, not being able to pass trough it would have been the last attribute I would have thought of giving it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159903-icker-preserve-kit-issues/#findComment-1750170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiko24 Posted September 23, 2024 Author Share Posted September 23, 2024 9 hours ago, arubaro said: Salt works for ingredients but needs a buff For how hard it is to get lots of it, it's really not worth it to use it to refresh some ingredients, really. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159903-icker-preserve-kit-issues/#findComment-1750219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSpoon Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 11 hours ago, Cruvimaster said: We have 3 items that preserve food (Gift Wrap, Bundling Wrap and Polar Bearger Bin), but there is no item that restores spoilage of food. So I would like this feature more than increasing the storage capacity for Icker Preserve Kit. That would make it truly unique. Unexpected Oxygen Not Included reference Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159903-icker-preserve-kit-issues/#findComment-1750232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cropo Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 I cook a lot of dragonpies in a single go, and due to their lengthly cooking time I have to constantly be changing the locations of said pies. If I bundle wrap them, opening them drops them on the floor, even if it's a very short window of time it's still technically expiring even if only a few seconds and that kind of annoys me. Putting it in a fridge or even the bearger bin expires them as well(although bearger bin really became the MVP on that.) I like that I have a non-wrappable solution to this annoyance with the icker preserve kit. I also don't have to go looking around and keep track of the spare dragonpies I have wrapped away after I use my current ones. That being said, one thing I thought would be an interesting way to use the icker preserve kits is to change how they work; make them a "refillable salt lick" for food, where when placed inside of one the food slowly restores spoilage but at the same time consumes some of the icker gel over time. Once the icker gel is consumed, the item is still preserved indefinitely but you would either need to refuel it with more icker preserve to restore spoilage again or let it slowly regenerate itself over time when empty. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159903-icker-preserve-kit-issues/#findComment-1750237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiko24 Posted September 23, 2024 Author Share Posted September 23, 2024 6 minutes ago, cropo said: I cook a lot of dragonpies in a single go, and due to their lengthly cooking time I have to constantly be changing the locations of said pies. If I bundle wrap them, opening them drops them on the floor, even if it's a very short window of time it's still technically expiring even if only a few seconds and that kind of annoys me. Putting it in a fridge or even the bearger bin expires them as well(although bearger bin really became the MVP on that.) I like that I have a non-wrappable solution to this annoyance with the icker preserve kit. I also don't have to go looking around and keep track of the spare dragonpies I have wrapped away after I use my current ones. That being said, one thing I thought would be an interesting way to use the icker preserve kits is to change how they work; make them a "refillable salt lick" for food, where when placed inside of one the food slowly restores spoilage but at the same time consumes some of the icker gel over time. Once the icker gel is consumed, the item is still preserved indefinitely but you would either need to refuel it with more icker preserve to restore spoilage again or let it slowly regenerate itself over time when empty. Yesssss, you would go to the caves and collect icker for your Icker Preserves. I like that. Especially with how abundant ickers are. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159903-icker-preserve-kit-issues/#findComment-1750240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiko24 Posted September 23, 2024 Author Share Posted September 23, 2024 12 hours ago, SilverSpoon said: Unexpected Oxygen Not Included reference lol forgot about that completely Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159903-icker-preserve-kit-issues/#findComment-1750358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pe Dabliu Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 I just want the icker to be able to store living things, like butterflies and moongleans. Since they won't change the bundle to unbundle inside the inventory first, giving the icker this buff would be amazing Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159903-icker-preserve-kit-issues/#findComment-1750360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twitchgabo Posted October 4, 2024 Share Posted October 4, 2024 If only they were portable.... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159903-icker-preserve-kit-issues/#findComment-1751794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridley Posted October 4, 2024 Share Posted October 4, 2024 Sometimes I wonder if Klei is setting the stage for a bundling wrap nerf. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159903-icker-preserve-kit-issues/#findComment-1751795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxil20 Posted October 4, 2024 Share Posted October 4, 2024 4 minutes ago, Ridley said: Sometimes I wonder if Klei is setting the stage for a bundling wrap nerf. I can’t imagine them doing that without major adjustments to icker preserves to hold more items, especially since bundles still hold items preserves cannot in addition to the fact that preserves are highly space inefficient for bulk storage. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159903-icker-preserve-kit-issues/#findComment-1751797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameron8800 Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 7 hours ago, Ridley said: Sometimes I wonder if Klei is setting the stage for a bundling wrap nerf. I hope not. This would be the single worst thing I could imagine. I think this would have such far reaching effects on every current play style and strategy that it would universally piss off every single player Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159903-icker-preserve-kit-issues/#findComment-1751851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waywarbler Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 8 hours ago, Ridley said: Sometimes I wonder if Klei is setting the stage for a bundling wrap nerf. They already reassured us during a Rhymes with Play stream that they don't plan on removing the bundling wrap's ability to pause spoilage. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159903-icker-preserve-kit-issues/#findComment-1751856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOS-Ouroboros-K Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 I personally think we should be able to get the Icker Jar at an earlier time, given that Icker's drops are Nightmare Fuel and not Pure Horror. On 9/23/2024 at 7:27 AM, Cruvimaster said: We have 3 items that preserve food (Gift Wrap, Bundling Wrap and Polar Bearger Bin), but there is no item that restores spoilage of food. So I would like this feature more than increasing the storage capacity for Icker Preserve Kit. That would make it truly unique. Here's an idea: When Acid Rain occurs, the food in the Icker Preserve should slowly recover from spoilage. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159903-icker-preserve-kit-issues/#findComment-1751873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mima_ Posted October 9, 2024 Share Posted October 9, 2024 anyone pls make mod for infinite stack for icker preserve kit pls . or make it upgradeable the way it is now is just waste of space sadly Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159903-icker-preserve-kit-issues/#findComment-1752256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cropo Posted October 9, 2024 Share Posted October 9, 2024 On 10/4/2024 at 11:44 PM, SOS-Ouroboros-K said: Here's an idea: When Acid Rain occurs, the food in the Icker Preserve should slowly recover from spoilage. I absolutely love this idea. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159903-icker-preserve-kit-issues/#findComment-1752266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted October 9, 2024 Share Posted October 9, 2024 On 10/5/2024 at 8:44 AM, SOS-Ouroboros-K said: Here's an idea: When Acid Rain occurs, the food in the Icker Preserve should slowly recover from spoilage. That overlaps with salt... i prefer an unique perk like preserving mobs Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159903-icker-preserve-kit-issues/#findComment-1752283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiko24 Posted October 9, 2024 Author Share Posted October 9, 2024 4 hours ago, arubaro said: That overlaps with salt... i prefer an unique perk like preserving mobs bundling wrap Edit: also, salt can be used only on raw ingredients, not cooked food or crockpot dishes, this would be a unique interaction. No one uses salt for this anyway, its refreshing effect is too weak for how hard it is to get. It's one of those resources it's a shame to use, and not needed to gather Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159903-icker-preserve-kit-issues/#findComment-1752317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOS-Ouroboros-K Posted October 11, 2024 Share Posted October 11, 2024 On 10/9/2024 at 8:29 PM, arubaro said: That overlaps with salt... i prefer an unique perk like preserving mobs Salt Crystals are not going to save our Glow Berry. And we already have at least two wraps and one Pack to save mobs. And for the vast majority of player-picked mobs, a single seed (or something similar) will restore their freshness. So it's not unique. Spoiler PS: Formalin: I think of myself as preserving specimens rather than living creatures. Spoiler Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159903-icker-preserve-kit-issues/#findComment-1752556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted October 11, 2024 Share Posted October 11, 2024 9 minutes ago, SOS-Ouroboros-K said: Salt Crystals are not going to save our Glow Berry. And we already have at least two wraps and one Pack to save mobs. And for the vast majority of player-picked mobs, a single seed (or something similar) will restore their freshness. So it's not unique. Hide contents PS: Formalin: I think of myself as preserving specimens rather than living creatures. Reveal hidden contents Glowberries have the same effect at 100%freshness than at 1%.. same goes for warly's glowberry dish Sure, we can store creatures in bundles but you need to recatch them. Is so annoying needing to make multiple bundles of few unites of spores or gleams... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159903-icker-preserve-kit-issues/#findComment-1752560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOS-Ouroboros-K Posted October 11, 2024 Share Posted October 11, 2024 51 minutes ago, arubaro said: Glowberries have the same effect at 100%freshness than at 1%.. same goes for warly's glowberry dish Sure, we can store creatures in bundles but you need to recatch them. Is so annoying needing to make multiple bundles of few unites of spores or gleams... I want my Glowcap to be full of full freshness items. And for mobs, 100% and 1% are the same effect, too. If you're having trouble recapturing, you can do it on a biscuit, I mean a boat. Or just put the mobs and their food in the Insulated Pack. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159903-icker-preserve-kit-issues/#findComment-1752573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted October 11, 2024 Share Posted October 11, 2024 4 hours ago, SOS-Ouroboros-K said: I want my Glowcap to be full of full freshness items. And for mobs, 100% and 1% are the same effect, too. If you're having trouble recapturing, you can do it on a biscuit, I mean a boat. Or just put the mobs and their food in the Insulated Pack. Freeing spores and gleams in a boat sounds like an horrible idea... Enlightement shards work for glowcaps... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159903-icker-preserve-kit-issues/#findComment-1752592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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