arubaro Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 1 hour ago, Steorra said: I dont think the mega worm is a "reasonable" challenge which you mentioned for those 10k+ days players. 1st, those players can't predict such a disaster boss in future patch before. they already pay many time in their 10k+ world. 2nd, the mega worm is more terrible than deerclops, bearger and hound attacks. It has randomly generation and it only has 30 second warning for players in end game. the warning of mega worm is more shorter than deerclops and bearger, but also the mega worm is more threatening. 3rd, the mega worm gives almost no useful drop for endgame players, but to kill it you need to feed them many items when they randomly generate around you. you won't have friendly units or prepared items for killing it every time. it now spawns near the player and i bet those 10k days world players have a chest filled with lazy explorers, if not, is their fault for slacking Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159668-useless-bosses/page/2/#findComment-1749137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steorra Posted September 20, 2024 Share Posted September 20, 2024 On 9/18/2024 at 7:37 PM, Anis5240 said: Wrong, it was a one minute warning; more than enough for you to get away from your big base. wrong, it's 30 second. you could go try "insight" mod to confirm it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159668-useless-bosses/page/2/#findComment-1749647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted September 20, 2024 Share Posted September 20, 2024 19 minutes ago, Steorra said: wrong, it's 30 second. you could go try "insight" mod to confirm it. the mod shows for me "hounds attack in 60 seconds" but the sound effect for them only appears when it says "30 seconds" i dont think it would be any differend for worms Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159668-useless-bosses/page/2/#findComment-1749655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumber64 Posted September 20, 2024 Share Posted September 20, 2024 6 minutes ago, Echsrick said: the mod shows for me "hounds attack in 60 seconds" but the sound effect for them only appears when it says "30 seconds" i dont think it would be any differend for worms I don't think anyone not using the mod has access to that information. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159668-useless-bosses/page/2/#findComment-1749658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uedo Posted September 20, 2024 Share Posted September 20, 2024 On 9/13/2024 at 1:31 AM, Mike23Ua said: No , and I mean that sincerely. Not because I’m a jerk or anything like that, but because my “Reward” for killing a Juggernaut that’s raiding my base in State of Decay 2 is having significantly less Ammo then I would’ve had if I had just ignored it, but killing it is preventing my survivors and vehicles from being decimated. DST was really just far more sandbox then it was anything else, and this “boss” brings back some of that survival/base defense aspect you don’t need grand epic rewards from every mob you fight. Like almost every boss in this game.... you can walk it away, your reasons are always very absolutist when they don't need to be. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159668-useless-bosses/page/2/#findComment-1749698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybers2001 Posted September 20, 2024 Share Posted September 20, 2024 Scrappy werepig is actually good as an early post-CC boss, due to getting extra Wagstaff blueprints from him. Reduces that RNG pain a bit of trying to get all those blueprints. On 9/12/2024 at 5:12 PM, nimzowitsch10 said: @Mysterious box I like how everyone is so happy about this update but deep down everyone knows its the most empty update since the scrappy werepig update I'm sure you'd like future bosses to drop nothing and just be for the "experience" Yes, for someone like me who doesn’t plan to fight with beefalo nor coddle a needy weapon for its lifesteal, this is a rather hollow update. The icker preservation kits have been the saving grace. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159668-useless-bosses/page/2/#findComment-1749700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOS-Ouroboros-K Posted September 20, 2024 Share Posted September 20, 2024 On 9/13/2024 at 5:07 PM, Gashzer said: Bone shards for loads of bucket o poops is the best thing we can get from the great worm. I hate using crop combos, I like planting all of one crop and just managing it with fertiliser. Bone shards are hard to amass normally in the late game. Glowcap enthusiast: I agree. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159668-useless-bosses/page/2/#findComment-1749703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted September 20, 2024 Share Posted September 20, 2024 1 hour ago, Bumber64 said: I don't think anyone not using the mod has access to that information. and thats the problem is it not? that you technicaly only have 30 seconds of warning Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159668-useless-bosses/page/2/#findComment-1749704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benfroyobro9381 Posted September 20, 2024 Share Posted September 20, 2024 Removal of any content from the game is a net negative and it boggles me that people genuinely think it's a good idea. You're either killing potential, removing something that some players enjoyed, or something is so awful that you need to cut your losses. This is the least contructive answer to very solvable problems; it completely discourages innovation and growth. Random thought but maybe if the worm boss eats you with a glowcap, milk made hat, or some other food related head or body slot item, it spits you out and digests said item for a decent time, depending on how difficult said item is to get. I think this would give these items more uses and might lead to some funny strategies. It also makes the game feel more cohesive, with more items and entities interacting with eachother. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159668-useless-bosses/page/2/#findComment-1749708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted September 20, 2024 Share Posted September 20, 2024 1 hour ago, Uedo said: Like almost every boss in this game.... you can walk it away, your reasons are always very absolutist when they don't need to be. I’m really not understanding what you’re trying to say here, almost everything in the game aside from the global weather effects & your hunger draining, are almost if not entirely optional. There is never any specific need to fight Toadstool, or FrostJaw or Bee Queen, you opt to fight those things because you want the rewards from fighting them. Just like you can completely Ignore a Spider Queen and she will eventually calm down and bury back in the ground as a stage 1 spider nest. Or if you anger the mighty tree guardians you can make them chill out and go back to sleepy night nights by just planting some pinecones in the ground around them. You can choose to fight Deerclops or Bearger or you can just wait till they Despawn. I could make a huge highly off topic post about how I would change a lot about this game for the so called “hardcore end game” I’d start by making things like spider queens NOT dig back into the ground and becoming lower tier threats if ignored. And maybe don’t let players burn the carcasses of the more difficult enemy variants before they have a chance to spawn? This games difficulty is weirdly unbalanced…. And I wish someone at Klei would actually listen to me for once. Demon Rabbit King > Armored Bearger. Why? Because the rabbit pursues you without giving up EVER and it endlessly spawns minions, Bearger ignores you until you attack him, and you can also just burn away his carcass before he animates back to life. Do you want to explain the balance in that? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159668-useless-bosses/page/2/#findComment-1749712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uedo Posted September 21, 2024 Share Posted September 21, 2024 9 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: Do you want to explain the balance in that? No? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159668-useless-bosses/page/2/#findComment-1749809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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