would you just stop destroying my base pls

[Theukon-dos]

6 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

I wonder how many people have actually played Minecraft or 7 Days to Die? Games that are far far more sandbox then DST ever will be because you can literally dig all the way down into the terrain to what would probably be considered the equivalent of hell.

And of the people who “Claim” that they’ve played these games, I wonder how many of them have ever experienced the unfair, and most the time unpreventable..  Occasional Base Destructions?

Im talking, having a Creeper sneak up in your living room & going KABLOOM type of “Oppsies” or Building a huge fortress in 7DTD only for it to burn away in ash after a wave of flaming zombies intentionally designed to run into and set fire to your base structures to create openings for other zombie types to break in.

DS & DST with exception to a handful of things like Solo DS Dragonfly, or Deerclops, or a Phase 2 Eye/Twins of Terror, doesn’t really have many mobs or opportunities to destroy.

I've not played 7 Days to Die, but I have play way, way to much Minecraft, and you are full of beefalo dung. Yes, creepers can be destructive. But they're so easy to prevent that they're a non issue. Just lighting your base up is enough to prevent them from spawning nearby. And creepers will never target your builds directly, they'll only be destroyed as collateral damage. This means that you can also just build a wall around your base to keep them from destroying everything.

 

And though I've never played 7D2D, I get the impression that the risk of base destruction is part of the core gameplay loop, so it's not really comparable to Minecraft or Don't Starve. But I will say that building your primary base defenses out of wood despite knowing that one of the zombie types is really good at destroying wood sounds like a massive skill issue.

10 hours ago, 00petar00 said:

I really agree with you besides that I don't find it interesting. The biggest argument for megabasing is that you don't need these structures and they are mostly there for decoration or making it easier for players that spend thousands of days playing, so I don't see why someone that invests that much time is punished for it when it is mostly players without big bases that ask for these destruction mechanics to be kept.

 

Why can Terraria have a hard mode but DST can't? It is possible to satisfy all players but we aren't given chances to talk to devs and give them feedback required for things like these. I am sure that there are players that would spend hundreds of hours writing changes for hardcore mode so klei wouldn't even need to put much effort into it besides changing numbers. I know that uncompromising mod has been riddled with controversy and for a good reason with so many devs writing all kinds of stuff over the years including the recent incident with Scrimbles but even though I don't like what has been said he is passionate about DST and doesn't like the direction it is taking, so why can't we split into two gamemodes?

Typo. I meant to say that I don't find base destruction interesting. Mostly for the reasons you described.

Also Scrimbles is a girl.

[Mike23Ua]

Yeah I’m sorry but I just gotta ask, what freaking version of Minecraft are y’all playing?! I can light my base up with lights all over everywhere and I promise you creepers are still going to be the ONE mob that ignores the no spawning rule. Unless some future update long after I stopped playing changed that or somethin.

& while fighting them head on is easily doable as they’ll give off a hissing sound right before exploding, They literally get their name from being able to sneak up behind you & blow parts of your builds up.

[cybers2001]

51 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

Yeah I’m sorry but I just gotta ask, what freaking version of Minecraft are y’all playing?! I can light my base up with lights all over everywhere and I promise you creepers are still going to be the ONE mob that ignores the no spawning rule. Unless some future update long after I stopped playing changed that or somethin.

& while fighting them head on is easily doable as they’ll give off a hissing sound right before exploding, They literally get their name from being able to sneak up behind you & blow parts of your builds up.

I remember when endermen were first added to the game and my beautiful natural landscape became swiss cheese.

[Maxposting]

1 hour ago, Mike23Ua said:

what freaking version of Minecraft are y’all playing?!

Every single one.

https://minecraft.wiki/w/Light

Keep in mind the light level requirement has been decreased between versions (which means that on versions below 1.18 JE and a very outdated BE version, light sources need to be placed more often, however they still work)

The argument against improving the greater worm in DST using Minecraft is faulty, as destruction like this is easily prevented.

[SOS-Ouroboros-K]

3 hours ago, Theukon-dos said:

I've not played 7 Days to Die, but I have play way, way to much Minecraft, and you are full of beefalo dung. Yes, creepers can be destructive. But they're so easy to prevent that they're a non issue. Just lighting your base up is enough to prevent them from spawning nearby. And creepers will never target your builds directly, they'll only be destroyed as collateral damage. This means that you can also just build a wall around your base to keep them from destroying everything.

 

That's why my buildings at mc are always built in the air and have obsidian as the base.

And why I kill every Ghast I see. (I don't really like hunting, but, bro, you get the idea.)

 

[Masked Koopa]

Honestly id understand this enemy better if it were on the surface but the caves are already absurdly hostile. It really feels to me like Klei just don't want people living in caves at all, which makes their claim that the caves is gonna focus on "survival mechanics" all the more dubious because those would have been much more impactful on the shard people actually tend to spend most of their time.

[Mike23Ua]

22 minutes ago, Masked Koopa said:

Honestly id understand this enemy better if it were on the surface but the caves are already absurdly hostile. It really feels to me like Klei just don't want people living in caves at all, which makes their claim that the caves is gonna focus on "survival mechanics" all the more dubious because those would have been much more impactful on the shard people actually tend to spend most of their time.

To be fair… isn’t that the way Hamlet was Designed? Peaceful base simulator on the surface with your own cribs or villages to decorate, and then hostile everywhere else.