Spark Ark x Shadow Atrium with exploit

[Cruvimaster]

To make the most powerful items in the lunar version, the player must face 3 possessed bosses with a wait of 1 game year to obtain only 1 Spark Ark.

To make the most powerful items in the shadow, simply use the exploit to obtain infinite Shadow Atrium.

These are facts. It is up to the developers to decide whether or not to keep this exploit.

[Cruvimaster]

Dozens of Shadow Atrium on the 21st without ever having faced the bosses in any other way. On the full moon of the 11th you can already get Sketches from these monsters.

Much easier than Spark Ark!

[Gashzer]

Well for consistency all shadow creatures should be able to walk on water.

Simple as that really...

[Valase]

1 hour ago, Cruvimaster said:

To make the most powerful items in the lunar version, the player must face 3 possessed bosses with a wait of 1 game year to obtain only 1 Spark Ark.

after the lunar trio is defeated, you get one spark ark for each "new" encounter with one of them, so it goes from one per year to three since we can only get one bearger per fall. 

so some people do varg -> Bearger -> Deerclops -> Deeclops (with flare) -> Varg -> Bearger (on the start of the next fall) -> Deerclops -> Deerclops (again with flare).

For a total of 6 arks.

1 hour ago, Cruvimaster said:

These are facts.

Those are not facts, those are "missinformation". Idc about the frequency of either of them, but don't go around spreading wrong things.

[twitchgabo]

28 minutes ago, Cruvimaster said:

Dozens of Shadow Atrium on the 21st without ever having faced the bosses in any other way. On the full moon of the 11th you can already get Sketches from these monsters.

Much easier than Spark Ark!

 

I think this exploit should be removed . However, the way it is right now is not at all that bad because you only need one atrium and can refuel the mace with repair kits. If you are in a server with multiple people you can even fight the shadow bosses more than once in one night.

[Cruvimaster]

2 minutes ago, Valase said:

after the lunar trio is defeated, you get one spark ark for each "new" encounter with one of them, so it goes from one per year to three since we can only get one bearger per fall. 

so some people do varg -> Bearger -> Deerclops -> Deeclops (with flare) -> Varg -> Bearger (on the start of the next fall) -> Deerclops -> Deerclops (again with flare).

For a total of 6 arks.

Those are not facts, those are "missinformation". Idc about the frequency of either of them, but don't go around spreading wrong things.

I was very clear that the first spark ark will only be obtained after 1 year. And to get 6 more will take a long time. Shadow Atrium, on the other hand, gets much more than that in a single go.

Or are you saying that what I did in the video doesn't exist?

[chirsg]

This is a sickness. And I'm not talking about the subject of this thread.

[Keknutui]

46 minutes ago, Cruvimaster said:

21-го числа вы пройдете десятки Shadow Atrium, ни разу не столкнувшись с боссами каким-либо другим способом. В полнолуние 11-го числа вы уже сможете получить эскизы этих монстров.

Намного проще, чем Spark Ark!

 

I believe that this should be fixed and the chess itself should be changed instead. It's not fair that lunar things can be obtained only after a long time, but for shadow things you can stuff everything before the rifts.

[Evelo]

I think allowing some way to fight the shadow bosses outside of New Moons would help immensely. Assuming this exploit gets fixed.

That way people don't feel pressured to wait every 20 days to fight a boss that they might have forgotten about then suffer the consequences of waiting another 20 days.

Sure the first time you fight them can require a new moon, but subsequent ones? Maybe allow a Polar Star to act as a New Moon for the purposes of summoning these guys. Would also incentivize the use of the Moon Caller staff outside of deconstructing it once. Just spit balling.

[Keknutui]

1 hour ago, Evelo said:

Я думаю, что разрешение некоторого способа сражаться с теневыми боссами за пределами New Moons очень помогло бы. Предполагая, что этот эксплойт будет исправлен.

Таким образом, люди не чувствуют себя вынужденными ждать каждые 20 дней, чтобы сразиться с боссом, о котором они, возможно, забыли, а затем страдать от последствий ожидания еще 20 дней.

Уверены, что для первого боя с ними может потребоваться новолуние, но для последующих? Может быть, разрешить Полярной звезде выступать в роли Новолуния для призыва этих парней. Также стимулировало бы использование персонала Moon Caller, помимо его одноразовой разборки. Просто плюнь на это.

I think we should add the ability to fight them in caves under less prolonged and severe conditions, but only when opening rifts, giving them planar damage and a new appearance

[chaosmonkey]

I don't understand why the shadow atrium was reused for the new crafts. Seems crazy that we wouldn't get a new shadow rift boss that drops something akin to spark arks. Leave the chess pieces and the shadow atrium alone.

[Keknutui]

51 minutes ago, chaosmonkey said:

Я не понимаю, почему shadow atrium был повторно использован для новых crafts. Кажется безумием, что мы не получим нового босса shadow rift, который роняет что-то похожее на spark arks. Оставьте шахматные фигуры и shadow atrium в покое.

The developers do not want the rifts to be similar to each other, so they decided to take this step

[HeatAndRun]

2 hours ago, Evelo said:

I think allowing some way to fight the shadow bosses outside of New Moons would help immensely. Assuming this exploit gets fixed.

That way people don't feel pressured to wait every 20 days to fight a boss that they might have forgotten about then suffer the consequences of waiting another 20 days.

Sure the first time you fight them can require a new moon, but subsequent ones? Maybe allow a Polar Star to act as a New Moon for the purposes of summoning these guys. Would also incentivize the use of the Moon Caller staff outside of deconstructing it once. Just spit balling.

What if they can be spawned in caves, at the ruins, or at the nightmare phase?

[cybers2001]

2 hours ago, Evelo said:

I think allowing some way to fight the shadow bosses outside of New Moons would help immensely. Assuming this exploit gets fixed.

That way people don't feel pressured to wait every 20 days to fight a boss that they might have forgotten about then suffer the consequences of waiting another 20 days.

Sure the first time you fight them can require a new moon, but subsequent ones? Maybe allow a Polar Star to act as a New Moon for the purposes of summoning these guys. Would also incentivize the use of the Moon Caller staff outside of deconstructing it once. Just spit balling.

Well, one thing you can do is just set up a shadow boss arena on the moon island, and fight the shadows during the new moon that triggers once CC is defeated.

[Valase]

7 hours ago, Cruvimaster said:

I was very clear that the first spark ark will only be obtained after 1 year.

Nope, you said that:

And I answered that this "one year wait" yields more than one ark.

7 hours ago, Cruvimaster said:

And to get 6 more will take a long time.

the next two in a few more minutes of fight, if you don't want a break.

7 hours ago, Cruvimaster said:

Or are you saying that what I did in the video doesn't exist?

I won't say from where did you pulled this argument, as I don't want to be mean.

But in fact, I didn't even interact with the video, I said that you should be more precise with your calculations, this would be the same as I saying that you can only get one Atrium per full moon because you should only defeat them without cheese.

Again I don't care if they obliterate this cheese or not, but you don't need to downplay one side to make a argument.