BabaFisi Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 I wanna hear the people's ideas for new character skilltrees. I'll go first: I'm betting the next update will have Walter and Wortox get a skilltree. The two work great in multiplayer, but in singleplayer? They kinda fall flat... Not to mention the fact that Walter is a character that a lot of people already say is flawed by design. Wortox I feel should get a little more, as he literally only has 1 upside, and the rest of his character is just downsides. Everything hates him, he looses sanity fast despite him having reduced sanity loss, getting TOO MANY souls causes you to loose sanity faster, Food barely does anything to him, and souls (which will most likely be your main source of food because ACTUAL food does almost nothing) ALSO REDUCES SANITY. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157848-whats-your-guys-predictions-for-new-skilltrees/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormboi Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 I say we take a break from skilltree-ness for a bit Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157848-whats-your-guys-predictions-for-new-skilltrees/#findComment-1731729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopuleasa Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 Wicker, Max and Wanda will become godlike leviathans with their newfound powers Wortox, Wendy will run out of ideas on what possibly they could add for 15 skill points Webber will be the de facto server killer with spider lag Walter will become a character Warly will finally make me ditch random maining, and will become my new favorite character Wes will never get a skill tree Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157848-whats-your-guys-predictions-for-new-skilltrees/#findComment-1731845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPCMaxwell Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 46 minutes ago, loopuleasa said: Wicker, Max and Wanda will become godlike leviathans with their newfound powers Wortox, Wendy will run out of ideas on what possibly they could add for 15 skill points Webber will be the de facto server killer with spider lag Walter will become a character Warly will finally make me ditch random maining, and will become my new favorite character Wes will never get a skill tree As much as I would approve Maxwell returning to his old "creepy guy with creepy powers" state, I am equally fearing him having a fully fleshed out skilltree similar to what they've given other characters so far would make him BORING for me to play. So I'd either have to play my Maxwell mod without skilltree or think for myself of even more [funny / silly] ways to handicap him. And honestly with my little abilities of changing stuff in game I'm running out of ways to handicap him without making him unplayable as single player. [Plus the skilltree will probably once again include something to teleport (which would fit Maxwell's former powers) but that would be useless for me to use, because I've already got this ability in my Maxwell version] Even if I decided to return to play with standard Maxwell, I'd probably be rather bored if he really becomes a godlike character with his skilltrees. Unless they'd make the skilltree less combat focus. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157848-whats-your-guys-predictions-for-new-skilltrees/#findComment-1731862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chincer Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 they seem to try to pick someone that desperately need a skill tree, with others that are doing just fine and could use something fun to do like woodie and wormwood needing the stuff and wolfgang being already strong and just getting buffs here and there, or wigfrid being pair with willow that definetely could use it. that means warly and walter wont be in the same update, as both need serious work and thinking to do so they could pair one of them with wendy or WX who are already fun and powerful just to make it easier to do Wortox in particular is a character they would do a lot of stuff since his kit is so simple, it is all about the souls, so giving him things to craft with them and spells that use souls go a long way. characters like wickerbottom and WX do have a lot of "moving parts" so they can go many different ways Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157848-whats-your-guys-predictions-for-new-skilltrees/#findComment-1731966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sesekriri Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 17 hours ago, BabaFisi said: The two work great in multiplayer, but in singleplayer? They kinda fall flat... It is Don't Starve TOGETHER and the characters should be designed as such Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157848-whats-your-guys-predictions-for-new-skilltrees/#findComment-1732024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 17 hours ago, BabaFisi said: Not to mention the fact that Walter is a character that a lot of people already say is flawed by design. I'll still never understand this claim and with skill trees existing it'll never stop being baffling to me. I'm sure klei will just make him very powerful and the people who do say this will suddenly say he's completely fine. 7 hours ago, loopuleasa said: Wes will never get a skill tree To be fair people said he'd never get a refresh... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157848-whats-your-guys-predictions-for-new-skilltrees/#findComment-1732029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 Wes will get a 15 point skill tree with only 15 skills, each “skill” makes playing him harder or worse, AND to make sure players aren’t just not investing points into his “skills” they Auto-Unlock themselves. Thats how you make a “challenge character” Next up- Only 8 characters have skill trees so far (if you can even count Wilson as having one) that means- Oh dang we got atleast another year and a half maybe 2-3 years to go before everyone’s finally got a dumb skill tree. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157848-whats-your-guys-predictions-for-new-skilltrees/#findComment-1732031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 3 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: Wes will get a 15 point skill tree with only 15 skills, each “skill” makes playing him harder or worse, AND to make sure players aren’t just not investing points into his “skills” they Auto-Unlock themselves. Thats how you make a “challenge character” The game's not really trending in this direction and even with his refresh while he did get more downsides it still made him a stronger character when you can handle his downsides and with how skill trees are specifically just aimed at powering up characters I imagine it'll just do the same for him or he'll get a Wilson level skill tree. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157848-whats-your-guys-predictions-for-new-skilltrees/#findComment-1732033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiliano Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 I really hope that Wes's entire skill tree is making it more difficult, being a way to further customize the "hard difficulty" to +. Just like Supergiant does with its games (Bastion, Transistor, and Hades), we add points in specific aspects to increase the difficulty, in general. So, unlike the other trees, this one would really only have 15 options. Examples of skill points would be ability to make the thermal stone not work (or work very little), causing him to need to wear the robes; food is less effective and buffs are minimized. However, the "good" changes would come intrinsic to the character to avoid confusing players, such as balloon improvements (the speed one really needs to last longer). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157848-whats-your-guys-predictions-for-new-skilltrees/#findComment-1732045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picklesaurus Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 I hope Wes's Skill tree is just like a normal skill tree and fun to play with. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157848-whats-your-guys-predictions-for-new-skilltrees/#findComment-1732055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormboi Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 43 minutes ago, Picklesaurus said: I hope Wes's Skill tree is just like a normal skill tree and fun to play with. That could be possible! I remember someone said that they were asking Wes mains for help with his skill tree, so it might a serious one instead of a meme one Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157848-whats-your-guys-predictions-for-new-skilltrees/#findComment-1732079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshyds Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 warly, along with a general update to cooking and making every dish have decent downsides and upsides, with possibly each having a hyper specific recipe to them found on recipe cards n such. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157848-whats-your-guys-predictions-for-new-skilltrees/#findComment-1732492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabaFisi Posted July 8, 2024 Author Share Posted July 8, 2024 On 7/3/2024 at 11:36 AM, Sesekriri said: It is Don't Starve TOGETHER and the characters should be designed as such Not everyone wants to play the singleplayer version, dude. Yes, because it is MAINLY a multiplayer game, there should be some characters that have skills that are built around a team effort. But I believe they should ALSO have skills that make them fun to play alone. Why would people do Boss Rushes or Speedruns ALONE in this game if it wasn't fun to play alone. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157848-whats-your-guys-predictions-for-new-skilltrees/#findComment-1733854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 5 minutes ago, BabaFisi said: Not everyone wants to play the singleplayer version, dude. Yes, because it is MAINLY a multiplayer game, there should be some characters that have skills that are built around a team effort. But I believe they should ALSO have skills that make them fun to play alone. Why would people do Boss Rushes or Speedruns ALONE in this game if it wasn't fun to play alone. I can answer that, maybe they don’t have many friends? Maybe they don’t trust random strangers in online matches where those strangers can be trolls and ruin hours worth of their gameplay progress in a matter of seconds? Maybe they are just Anti-Social but enjoy playing DST because with character Reworks, Skill Trees & all the cool belonging & character skins it’s really freaking hard to go back to the outdated single player game? Where Klei FAILED and I mean failed miserably however… is that they’re designing DST almost entirely around “group based” activities, and this makes it less of “Dont Starve but now with friends” and more of a freaking MMO-RPG that requires a Team Assembly to be effective. Yet… they still offer server options to host worlds in Offline Mode or only 1 max players allowed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157848-whats-your-guys-predictions-for-new-skilltrees/#findComment-1733860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPCMaxwell Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 1 minute ago, Mike23Ua said: I can answer that, maybe they don’t have many friends? Maybe they don’t trust random strangers in online matches where those strangers can be trolls and ruin hours worth of their gameplay progress in a matter of seconds? Maybe they are just Anti-Social but enjoy playing DST because with character Reworks, Skill Trees & all the cool belonging & character skins it’s really freaking hard to go back to the outdated single player game? Where Klei FAILED and I mean failed miserably however… is that they’re designing DST almost entirely around “group based” activities, and this makes it less of “Dont Starve but now with friends” and more of a freaking MMO-RPG that requires a Team Assembly to be effective. Yet… they still offer server options to host worlds in Offline Mode or only 1 max players allowed. thanks you just described me. Also I am one of those people who enjoys doing silly stuff in-game occasionally simple because it's fun to me to have characters suffer. [to stand right inside a burning twig bush and watch the character burn for a little while.] etc. which may be an annoyance to people who play the game "seriously" all the time and are all about combat and everything being perfect all the time. I love chaos A LOT. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157848-whats-your-guys-predictions-for-new-skilltrees/#findComment-1733862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruvimaster Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 2 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: I can answer that, maybe they don’t have many friends? Maybe they don’t trust random strangers in online matches where those strangers can be trolls and ruin hours worth of their gameplay progress in a matter of seconds? Maybe they are just Anti-Social but enjoy playing DST because with character Reworks, Skill Trees & all the cool belonging & character skins it’s really freaking hard to go back to the outdated single player game? I would add that some people like to play alone because the game requires many hours (megabase) and it is almost impossible to have a group that always has the same days and times of availability and desire to stay on a server for so long. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157848-whats-your-guys-predictions-for-new-skilltrees/#findComment-1733904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Safety Posted July 9, 2024 Share Posted July 9, 2024 On 7/3/2024 at 4:43 PM, Picklesaurus said: I hope Wes's Skill tree is just like a normal skill tree and fun to play with. I agree 100%. I only ask for one meme perk, that being the ability to choose which balloon animal and color you make when making basic balloons Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157848-whats-your-guys-predictions-for-new-skilltrees/#findComment-1733924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picklesaurus Posted July 9, 2024 Share Posted July 9, 2024 12 minutes ago, Dr. Safety said: I agree 100%. I only ask for one meme perk, that being the ability to choose which balloon animal and color you make when making basic balloons Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157848-whats-your-guys-predictions-for-new-skilltrees/#findComment-1733927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DegenerateFurry Posted July 9, 2024 Share Posted July 9, 2024 Warly should be among the next ones. If he isn't, Klei is making a mistake. I am very biased. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157848-whats-your-guys-predictions-for-new-skilltrees/#findComment-1733934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormboi Posted July 9, 2024 Share Posted July 9, 2024 23 minutes ago, DegenerateFurry said: Warly should be among the next ones. honestly I thought Warly was going be for the ocean QOL if there was gonna be three skilltrees Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157848-whats-your-guys-predictions-for-new-skilltrees/#findComment-1733936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benfroyobro9381 Posted July 9, 2024 Share Posted July 9, 2024 Wes's skilltree will give him the balloon mech from his april fool's short. Though seriously, I hope it's a mix of fun balloon crafts and challenge. If it's all challenge, then Wes would be moving towards what the main issue with his character was. That in a multiplayer setting, Wes's downsides negatively impacted other players since they'd need to share more resources to compensate or carry the Wes. His rework did help reduce this and I hope his skilltree keeps him difficult but a team player. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157848-whats-your-guys-predictions-for-new-skilltrees/#findComment-1733937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Webber Posted July 13, 2024 Share Posted July 13, 2024 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157848-whats-your-guys-predictions-for-new-skilltrees/#findComment-1735167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassielu Posted July 14, 2024 Share Posted July 14, 2024 I don't care, I just want it to end as soon as possible. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157848-whats-your-guys-predictions-for-new-skilltrees/#findComment-1735253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_zwb Posted July 15, 2024 Share Posted July 15, 2024 On 7/14/2024 at 12:24 PM, Cassielu said: I don't care, I just want it to end as soon as possible. bold of you to assume there would be an end to it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157848-whats-your-guys-predictions-for-new-skilltrees/#findComment-1735533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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