pether Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 I played DLC chilling with my dupes, building nice bases and slowly exploring new content. nothing crazy. In my game, I could not find any application for new Mercury element, any buildings made with it melted on spawn. However, I didn't dig deep into excel calculation to find best application for it. I wonder - did you guys find any interesting application for it? Or does it mean to be inconvinient and useless? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157813-what-application-for-mercury-did-you-find/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuiPalhas Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 I thought I'd use it as a way to melt some ice by heating it up in the Metal Refinery but it only worked as coolant when producing more mercury, otherwise it heated up too much and would vaporise on exit immediately... So gave up and used it as a liquid lock instead Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157813-what-application-for-mercury-did-you-find/#findComment-1731427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakura_sk Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 I found a use! Checking how quickly dupes can go through their tasks to build something. Method: build an automation wire (or other building) out of mercury (refined metal, not liquid, although it doesn't matter much). When it is built, you will get a notification (the notification: building melted) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157813-what-application-for-mercury-did-you-find/#findComment-1731430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knurek Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 Mercury is nice for an automatic mopping gym as it can be delivered to bottle emptier by an auto-sweeper. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157813-what-application-for-mercury-did-you-find/#findComment-1731432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carib94 Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 Building temp minimums is the problem here and they probably need to tweek the Mercury melting point. But I mainly use it for liquid locks, but in Space Out it can be use for rocket platforms at least it has some use there. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157813-what-application-for-mercury-did-you-find/#findComment-1731433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewWorldDan Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 Rocket platforms. They don't exchange heat with the environment, so although they're built at 15C, the game never checks to see if they've melted. I guess you could feed it to plug slugs, but the temperatures don't overlap, so either they freeze or the mercury melts. I've tried, but I can't really find a use for it other than liquid locks. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157813-what-application-for-mercury-did-you-find/#findComment-1731446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
imazined Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 As a heat exchange medium it's nice. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157813-what-application-for-mercury-did-you-find/#findComment-1731457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigin Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 - Great insulator for single liquid locks for accessible steam rooms. You don't need a double liquid lock since it barely exchanges heat - It's convenient to get liquid Mercury on the floor for say a steam turbine. Just build a bunch of radiant pipes made of Mercury (no moving bottles needed) - Rocket buildings and platform - Power chips if it's cold enough where it doesn't melt in transit Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157813-what-application-for-mercury-did-you-find/#findComment-1731458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
imazined Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 Great insulator? It has a high TC and a very low SHC. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157813-what-application-for-mercury-did-you-find/#findComment-1731462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigin Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 30 minutes ago, imazined said: Great insulator? It has a high TC and a very low SHC. Precisely, so it'll hit the upper limits of heat transfer easily. For example, 90C of 39g (approximate rest mass of mercury) contacting with 200C steam has a maximum cell-cell heat transfer of (200-92)/4 x 39/1000 x 0.14 or 0.14742 kDTU per tick, which is about 0.7371 kDTU/s of heat leakage. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157813-what-application-for-mercury-did-you-find/#findComment-1731479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
imazined Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 We use very different formulas to calculate this. I get to heat transfer into the mercury of 26.4 kDTU / tick according to this formula. This would overshoot the temperature of the steam. Is this clamping in your calculation included? Some sandbox testing. Left top 30g mercury, left bottom full cell of mercury (600kg) and on the right controls with 30g of crude oil and naphtha. 30g of mercury are actually a better insulator than 30g of naphtha. But 600kg of mercury are still a really good conductor. And that's where my confusion came from. I was thinking about a liquid lock like this: And I would like to understand your used formula Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157813-what-application-for-mercury-did-you-find/#findComment-1731500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarvingAngler Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 I think the primary purpose of mercury is to encourage keeping things at cold temperatures, as that seems to be a big psrt of this dlc. However, because tenperature build minimums exist, everything is built hotter than subzero, which is kinda stupid and invalidates mercury as well as a lot of what this dlc is about. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157813-what-application-for-mercury-did-you-find/#findComment-1731545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigin Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 1 hour ago, imazined said: And I would like to understand your used formula https://oxygennotincluded.wiki.gg/wiki/Thermal_Conductivity#Upper_limits I just plugged the numbers in there. Experimentally my volcano tamer's 1-tile entrance barely changes temperatures in the surrounding areas. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157813-what-application-for-mercury-did-you-find/#findComment-1731551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 I think Mercury is usable as high-temperature airlocks, since the (comparably) high evaporation temperature. Other than that? No idea. Wires in space that never get touched by any gas? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157813-what-application-for-mercury-did-you-find/#findComment-1731661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2tallyGr8 Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 8 hours ago, Gurgel said: Wires in space that never get touched by any gas? Doesn't the 15C construction heat floor immediately melt those? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157813-what-application-for-mercury-did-you-find/#findComment-1731751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 6 hours ago, 2tallyGr8 said: Doesn't the 15C construction heat floor immediately melt those? Hmm. Good question. For buildings it seems to do. No idea whether wires are affected. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157813-what-application-for-mercury-did-you-find/#findComment-1731854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holld_w117 Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 Maybe I'll use mercury to build a thermoaquotuner from golden amalgam. In liquid mercury, it will not overheat, with a steam turbine. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157813-what-application-for-mercury-did-you-find/#findComment-1732054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moondrake Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 At the moment, Mercury is even more useless than Chlorine, and that's REALLY saying something. And to add insult to injury, it's been included in MASSIVE quantities. Materials in the game have always been of SOME use, so what gives? Frankly, having to deal with so much of the crap is a pain in the ass and not fun at all. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157813-what-application-for-mercury-did-you-find/#findComment-1732134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goetzjam Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 I found a use, power plant chips, only issue is you must make them in a vacuum or really cold place and deliver it to wherever you need otherwise. That being said, the sooner I can remove these from my map the better. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157813-what-application-for-mercury-did-you-find/#findComment-1732240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 I expect there is a use we do not yet see, i.e. that is not yet implemented. There is too much of the stuff for anything else to be the case. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157813-what-application-for-mercury-did-you-find/#findComment-1732256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorlax Posted July 12, 2024 Share Posted July 12, 2024 I used mercury with a thermoaquatuner to keep the new plants in their proper temperature. Done this without the use of a steam turbine, just a thermoaquatuner with a layer of brine along the floor. Can post picture when I get home. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157813-what-application-for-mercury-did-you-find/#findComment-1734970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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