Sergadra Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 Would like to see an Advanced Version of the Atmosuit for really High Heat Sectors. Since the normal Atmosuit has now a bigger purpose with the cold scalding (normal Suit is enough there) and since toasty surroundings and chilly sourroundings are fixed now. I would suggest an Atmosuit Station maybe with an coolant and oxygen system inbuilt for working in melting hot areas to keep the dupes chilled about magma. Out of higher grade materials. Might be balanced with the cost to build and cost of running them this way. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157557-suggestion-advanced-atmosuits-for-high-heat-and-lava/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
goetzjam Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 I think people just use lead suits, no? I'm also not really sure how this is DLC related. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157557-suggestion-advanced-atmosuits-for-high-heat-and-lava/#findComment-1729531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primalflower Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 wouldn't lead suits melt above 300 something degrees? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157557-suggestion-advanced-atmosuits-for-high-heat-and-lava/#findComment-1729532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goetzjam Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 2 minutes ago, Primalflower said: wouldn't lead suits melt above 300 something degrees? It actually gives +1000 scalding temp. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157557-suggestion-advanced-atmosuits-for-high-heat-and-lava/#findComment-1729533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted June 27, 2024 Share Posted June 27, 2024 Maybe make that a "Thermium Suit", which, in a surprising inversion of effects, actually insulates exceptionally well! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157557-suggestion-advanced-atmosuits-for-high-heat-and-lava/#findComment-1729772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goboking Posted June 27, 2024 Share Posted June 27, 2024 If suit protection against extreme heat was deemed OP, why not balance it by having extreme temperatures increase the rate at which suits degrade? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157557-suggestion-advanced-atmosuits-for-high-heat-and-lava/#findComment-1729810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergadra Posted June 27, 2024 Author Share Posted June 27, 2024 On 6/26/2024 at 10:49 PM, goetzjam said: It actually gives +1000 scalding temp. It gives the same as the Atmo Suit: +726.9°C the Temperatures Lava is around +1400°C So no it is not enough for temperatures above. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157557-suggestion-advanced-atmosuits-for-high-heat-and-lava/#findComment-1729887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goetzjam Posted June 27, 2024 Share Posted June 27, 2024 7 minutes ago, Sergadra said: It gives the same as the Atmo Suit: +726.9°C the Temperatures Lava has is around +1400°C So no it is not enough for temperatures above. Is this interaction changed with a mod, only one I think that could impact it is rocketry expanded, but I'm not sure why that one would change it? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157557-suggestion-advanced-atmosuits-for-high-heat-and-lava/#findComment-1729894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergadra Posted June 27, 2024 Author Share Posted June 27, 2024 1 minute ago, goetzjam said: Is this interaction changed with a mod, only one I think that could impact it is rocketry expanded, but I'm not sure why that one would change it? Not sure i first thought it was about Farenheit and Celsius diffrence but thats not the case since in °F it would be 1483.6°F I started the game unmodded. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157557-suggestion-advanced-atmosuits-for-high-heat-and-lava/#findComment-1729896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigin Posted June 27, 2024 Share Posted June 27, 2024 14 minutes ago, Sergadra said: It gives the same as the Atmo Suit: +726.9°C the Temperatures Lava has is around +1400°C So no it is not enough for temperatures above. All the suits give +1000C scalding temperature, so a dupe can survive up to 1071.9C Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157557-suggestion-advanced-atmosuits-for-high-heat-and-lava/#findComment-1729900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goetzjam Posted June 27, 2024 Share Posted June 27, 2024 4 minutes ago, Sergadra said: Not sure i first thought it was about Farenheit and Celsius diffrence but thats not the case since in °F it would be 1483.6°F I started the game unmodded. I stand corrected Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157557-suggestion-advanced-atmosuits-for-high-heat-and-lava/#findComment-1729903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergadra Posted June 27, 2024 Author Share Posted June 27, 2024 3 minutes ago, Tigin said: All the suits give +1000C scalding temperature, so a dupe can survive up to 1071.9C Unmodded Game: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157557-suggestion-advanced-atmosuits-for-high-heat-and-lava/#findComment-1729905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigin Posted June 27, 2024 Share Posted June 27, 2024 5 minutes ago, Sergadra said: Unmodded Game: Jean takes scalding damage in 1073C molten lead. Frankie does not take scalding damage in 1071C molten lead. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157557-suggestion-advanced-atmosuits-for-high-heat-and-lava/#findComment-1729908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergadra Posted June 27, 2024 Author Share Posted June 27, 2024 2 minutes ago, Tigin said: Jean takes scalding damage in 1073C molten lead. Frankie does not take scalding damage in 1071C molten lead. Might be true. But there might be some more physics to it (Insulation / Time when the Dupe experiences the issue). The Scalding Threshold is listed as +716.9°C in the Description and thats what i go by. The Base Dupe Threshold is not listed in the game but is placed at 72.85°C What you experience might be a bug or special behaviour that the game has for everyone. Besides that that still aint 1400°C @Primalflower Yep thats right they melt to sand (funny) wonder if that happens when they wear them. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157557-suggestion-advanced-atmosuits-for-high-heat-and-lava/#findComment-1729914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigin Posted June 27, 2024 Share Posted June 27, 2024 20 minutes ago, Sergadra said: Might be true. But there might be some more physics to it (Insulation / Time when the Dupe experiences the issue). The Scalding Threshold is listed as +716.9°C in the Description and thats what i go by. The Base Dupe Threshold is not listed in the game but is placed at 72.85°C What you experience might be a bug or special behaviour that the game has for everyone. Besides that that still aint 1400°C @Primalflower Yep thats right they melt to sand (funny) wonder if that happens when they wear them. Wait until I shatter your world view on what the dupe threshold actually is :P. Anyhow, the only temperature that matters is the one that's used in gameplay. Being too trusting of Klei's tooltips can lead one astray at times. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157557-suggestion-advanced-atmosuits-for-high-heat-and-lava/#findComment-1729925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 14 hours ago, Tigin said: Jean takes scalding damage in 1073C molten lead. Frankie does not take scalding damage in 1071C molten lead. Interesting. I just ran the same experiment and can confirm that 1071C does not lead to scalding in the current beta and current Spaced Out. It seems to take a bit longer for the scalding to start in current stable Spaced Out than in beta, but I did not measure how long. Also noted that in stable Spaced Out they both get heatstroke, while in beta they do not due to the changes made, I guess. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157557-suggestion-advanced-atmosuits-for-high-heat-and-lava/#findComment-1730122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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