VietNamGg Posted June 19, 2024 Share Posted June 19, 2024 (edited) I'm glad that Merm can use useful tools. A great idea indeed added. Hopefully the skill tree also has good changes for the Mermaid and Wurt civilizations Edited June 19, 2024 by VietNamGg 1 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157295-game-update-615138/page/3/#findComment-1726795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshyds Posted June 19, 2024 Share Posted June 19, 2024 5 hours ago, V2C said: Merm with Shoddy Tools or Slightly Less Shoddy Tools will help clear Garden Detritus and dig Farm Soil. Yipee!!! 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157295-game-update-615138/page/3/#findComment-1726801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhangsheng Posted June 19, 2024 Share Posted June 19, 2024 5 hours ago, V2C said: Winona may dismiss Dark Vestiges by closely examining them again. What does this mean? Does anyone know? 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157295-game-update-615138/page/3/#findComment-1726802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant wolf Posted June 19, 2024 Share Posted June 19, 2024 6 hours ago, V2C said: Merm with Shoddy Tools or Slightly Less Shoddy Tools will help clear Garden Detritus and dig Farm Soil. Â We won Like the catapults not damaging walls and teleplatforms draining the batary. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157295-game-update-615138/page/3/#findComment-1726807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q_Ween Posted June 19, 2024 Share Posted June 19, 2024 5 hours ago, Brotid01 said: For Wurts this is huge, unless you're playing with friends, as Wurt you don't really need veggie variety from crops only Dragon Fruit/Potato/Tomato Etc. nothing too crazy to farm, Most of the times you've other sources of food aka kelp, bananas, berries so this is in my opinion just for farming healing food. For Wormwoods this mean nothing (Nothing you can already do), but for other characters are really gonna enjoy to have... i mean don't have to waste time preparing the soil. so big Qol in general. make Wormwood mainer sad because this update make his ability not that special and powerful. Is there any other reason to play him? I'm pessimistic. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157295-game-update-615138/page/3/#findComment-1726808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted June 19, 2024 Share Posted June 19, 2024 5 hours ago, Electroely said: With maximum efficiency perks, it consumes 1/6 of a Nitre generator per teleport. That's 3 teleports for every Nitre or Nightmare Fuel. And is that expensive? 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157295-game-update-615138/page/3/#findComment-1726810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dextops Posted June 19, 2024 Share Posted June 19, 2024 7 hours ago, V2C said: Merm with Shoddy Tools or Slightly Less Shoddy Tools will help clear Garden Detritus and dig Farm Soil. Absolutely amazing, this gives me hope that wurt will get some other changes that are still needed. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157295-game-update-615138/page/3/#findComment-1726815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kondr_ Posted June 19, 2024 Share Posted June 19, 2024 suggestion: let Waterfowl Can (from malbatros) filter sea water(so we can fill it from sea). we use watering cans to extinguish fires so it would be nice be able to fill it in sea.  6 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157295-game-update-615138/page/3/#findComment-1726818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creatorofswamps Posted June 19, 2024 Share Posted June 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Q_Ween said: make Wormwood mainer sad because this update make his ability not that special and powerful. Is there any other reason to play him? I'm pessimistic. He can still plant plants anywhere and always does it for free, and Wurth needs resources and updating them for this. This is a different approach. Don't get upset 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157295-game-update-615138/page/3/#findComment-1726823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primalflower Posted June 19, 2024 Share Posted June 19, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, arubaro said: And is that expensive? extremely. I now need to carry a stack of nightmare fuel on me in order to refuel the generators as I teleport around - Makes her a lot harder and less convenient to play in uncompromising mode Edited June 19, 2024 by Primalflower 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157295-game-update-615138/page/3/#findComment-1726824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopuleasa Posted June 19, 2024 Share Posted June 19, 2024 (edited) 8 hours ago, V2C said: Catapults (and vines) no longer damage friendly followers. All Catapult attacks no longer damage walls. Holy Winona has not just become a catapult, but she is now an entire trebuchet 8 hours ago, ZeRoboButler said: even if they tile 3x3 rather then hexagon I want to go full chaotic evil: tile RANDOM spots on the farm MUHAHAHAHAHA Edited June 19, 2024 by loopuleasa 1 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157295-game-update-615138/page/3/#findComment-1726826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiko24 Posted June 19, 2024 Share Posted June 19, 2024 7 hours ago, Dragonboooorn said: Merms now feel like a real civilization, but what about pigs? I think they deserve a touch up too. pigs are more stupid ngl, we can see from their mannerisms and speech, and merms idk, speak more eloquently? 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157295-game-update-615138/page/3/#findComment-1726829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_NiX Posted June 19, 2024 Share Posted June 19, 2024 (edited) Not sure how will Generator battery work with two Winonas having different Generator tiers, but it takes 12 Shadow Shots (24 with tier 3 generator) to fully empty Pure Horror Battery currently, and redeployment for generators post update is not needed indeed. Kinda wish that those red pure horror sparks would indicate the active generator talent. Tier 0: No sparks, just red indicator Tier 1: small spark at one side Tier 2: Small spark at both sides Tier 3: Current sparks or larger Edited June 19, 2024 by Master_NiX 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157295-game-update-615138/page/3/#findComment-1726846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopuleasa Posted June 19, 2024 Share Posted June 19, 2024 5 hours ago, Valase said: Do you guys think that Winona will start to use more walls or she will stick to statues in her farms? This change is huge for uncompromising mode, as walls, lureplants and wardrobes are nerfed to not block pathing. Walls and their durability is really important there, and winona is a super strong char there due to increased workspeed on high hunger. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157295-game-update-615138/page/3/#findComment-1726849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_NiX Posted June 19, 2024 Share Posted June 19, 2024 It would seem they also fixed Spacious Spotlight talent Here's current range (Darkened area is no talent) 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157295-game-update-615138/page/3/#findComment-1726850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted June 19, 2024 Share Posted June 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Primalflower said: extremely. I now need to carry a stack of nightmare fuel on me in order to refuel the generators as I teleport around - Makes her a lot harder and less convenient to play in uncompromising mode So you need to carry a resource (that can be used for other things like refueling bone armor or crafting swords) in order to skip a lot of time walking? These klei devs are evil 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157295-game-update-615138/page/3/#findComment-1726864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primalflower Posted June 19, 2024 Share Posted June 19, 2024 12 minutes ago, arubaro said: So you need to carry a resource (that can be used for other things like refueling bone armor or crafting swords) in order to skip a lot of time walking? These klei devs are evil Why are you on the offensive friend 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157295-game-update-615138/page/3/#findComment-1726868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Giggio Posted June 19, 2024 Share Posted June 19, 2024 I would say that Crab King is in an obnoxious place right now. It's a cool change but pan flute just nullifies the new mechanics. That's a bad thing for two reasons: - Fight is way too easy at the point it doesn't feel like a challenge - Overshadow itens that could have an opportunity to have a cool niche use. Like the cat o tails to desaggro the crabs or more time burning in fire staffs to last the whole healing phase. Making them imune to sleep would step it up and give those opportunities 5 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157295-game-update-615138/page/3/#findComment-1726882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted June 19, 2024 Share Posted June 19, 2024 2 minutes ago, Mr Giggio said: Fight is way too easy at the point it doesn't feel like a challenge don't use it then 2 minutes ago, Mr Giggio said: Like the cat o tails to desaggro the crabs they'll reaggro back after a few seconds, that's pointless 3 minutes ago, Mr Giggio said: more time burning in fire staffs to last the whole healing phase it'd probably be better to just use as few purples as possible and tank 3 minutes ago, Mr Giggio said: Making them imune to sleep would step it up and give those opportunities not really 3 hours ago, Primalflower said: Makes her a lot harder and less convenient to play in uncompromising mode then maybe ask the devs of the mod to change that if it's fine when playing without it? 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157295-game-update-615138/page/3/#findComment-1726883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted June 19, 2024 Share Posted June 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Primalflower said: Why are you on the offensive friend You dont have sense of humor 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157295-game-update-615138/page/3/#findComment-1726885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkemal23 Posted June 19, 2024 Share Posted June 19, 2024 11 hours ago, V2C said: Changes Merm with Shoddy Tools or Slightly Less Shoddy Tools will help clear Garden Detritus and dig Farm Soil. Wormwood got cooked once again. I'm glad Wurt is getting more attention tho. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157295-game-update-615138/page/3/#findComment-1726887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruvimaster Posted June 19, 2024 Share Posted June 19, 2024 40 minutes ago, Mr Giggio said: I would say that Crab King is in an obnoxious place right now. It's a cool change but pan flute just nullifies the new mechanics. That's a bad thing for two reasons: - Fight is way too easy at the point it doesn't feel like a challenge - Overshadow itens that could have an opportunity to have a cool niche use. Like the cat o tails to desaggro the crabs or more time burning in fire staffs to last the whole healing phase. Making them imune to sleep would step it up and give those opportunities The least Klei should do is greatly reduce the period of the sleeping effect so that the player is forced to use the pan flute several times in each stage. The follower that appears in the last phase (the biggest one) should not sleep. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157295-game-update-615138/page/3/#findComment-1726891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creatorofswamps Posted June 19, 2024 Share Posted June 19, 2024 35 minutes ago, mkemal23 said: Wormwood got cooked once again. I'm glad Wurt is getting more attention tho Although I understand your joy. But it's not worth elevating one at the expense of the other.It's not very pretty. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157295-game-update-615138/page/3/#findComment-1726892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkemal23 Posted June 19, 2024 Share Posted June 19, 2024 16 minutes ago, Creatorofswamps said: Although I understand your joy. But it's not worth elevating one at the expense of the other.It's not very pretty. I uhh, don't get it. Are you saying that I should't bring Wormwood to table just because Wurt got buffed? Or I shouldn't make fun of Wormwood because Wurt got a farming buff? Either way, I don't have a Issue with both of them. It's just that Wormwood feels weaker with every patch. Which is a common problem with klei's "revisited" characters. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157295-game-update-615138/page/3/#findComment-1726894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creatorofswamps Posted June 19, 2024 Share Posted June 19, 2024 19 minutes ago, mkemal23 said: uhh, don't get it. Are you saying that I should't bring Wormwood to table just because Wurt got buffed? Or I shouldn't make fun of Wormwood because Wurt got a farming buff? Either way, I don't have a Issue with both of them. It's just that Wormwood feels weaker with every patch. Which is a common problem with klei's "revisited" characters. I might have misunderstood you because of the translation, in any case, I mean that every character is good in some way, and it's not worth hate one and hearing another, whatever character it is(this does not work with Wes, only shhh) + I may be wrong, but wormwood recycling was one of the most creative,Strong and created with the help of the community.I don't want to say anything negative, I hope you understand me 1 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157295-game-update-615138/page/3/#findComment-1726897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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