Frosty_Mentos Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 (Not my idea, but-) Instead of regular immunity, let her have a spotlight from above in rosy tint to have her allowed to see in limited range in the dark, like she's a theatre actor of Charlie's play. Taken idea from Glermz's discord idea by Malfario Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157131-winonas-immunity-to-charlie-change-please/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameron8800 Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 I love this idea but I feel like being immune to the most core gameplay element outright is just kind weird. I can’t be the only one right? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157131-winonas-immunity-to-charlie-change-please/#findComment-1725337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPCMaxwell Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 4 minutes ago, Frosty_Mentos said: (Not my idea, but-) Instead of regular immunity, let her have a spotlight from above in rosy tint to have her allowed to see in limited range in the dark, like she's a theatre actor of Charlie's play. I adore the theater aesthetics, but I also think she should only have particial immunity. Maybe instead of regular immunity, she could get this one, only after picking up a rose flower from the ground or when she is in a certain area around the charlie-stage or close to stagehands / endtables or a certain area near a marble statue. (not statuemaxwell though) 5 minutes ago, cameron8800 said: I love this idea but I feel like being immune to the most core gameplay element outright is just kind weird. I can’t be the only one right? Yes, I get the sisterhood thing, but I mean, Charlie still has an evil shadow monster side that doesn't seem to make a difference. (though we saw her inner conflict between shadow-monster and attempting to withstand it.) And although she has merged her sides she still is the nightmonster as soon as the lights go out. So this is why I also love the idea but would restrict the immunity to only be under certain conditions. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157131-winonas-immunity-to-charlie-change-please/#findComment-1725340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted June 15, 2024 Author Share Posted June 15, 2024 15 minutes ago, cameron8800 said: I love this idea but I feel like being immune to the most core gameplay element outright is just kind weird. I can’t be the only one right? There's everything else in the world to worry about killing you than just night time. Darkness is more of a... condition that you gotta pass with simple items after all. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157131-winonas-immunity-to-charlie-change-please/#findComment-1725345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 3 hours ago, Frosty_Mentos said: (Not my idea, but-) Instead of regular immunity, let her have a spotlight from above in rosy tint to have her allowed to see in limited range in the dark, like she's a theatre actor of Charlie's play. It removes the sainity drain downside. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157131-winonas-immunity-to-charlie-change-please/#findComment-1725382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopuleasa Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 16 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said: It removes the sainity drain downside. You meant UPSIDE! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157131-winonas-immunity-to-charlie-change-please/#findComment-1725391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kroban Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 18 hours ago, cameron8800 said: I love this idea but I feel like being immune to the most core gameplay element outright is just kind weird. I can’t be the only one right? I mean atleast it makes sense lore-wise for Winona, the weird thing is Walter with Brightshade Helm being completely inmune to Charlie and sanity drain lmao Nah but seriously, I think the game incentivizes the player to have a constant source of light, these type of "abilities" are really good when you need it in an emergency situation (like idk, running out of light in ruins) but are balanced out by the player not being able to see anything. And even in that example I would bet most people will have magi and just end up using that. This darkness inmunity looks OP on paper but in gameplay you are still going to want to have light. If anything I think its mostly useless and she should get a different perk, no one likes playing on a dark screen Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157131-winonas-immunity-to-charlie-change-please/#findComment-1725405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowlVoid Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 Wigfrid mains in the corner crying Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157131-winonas-immunity-to-charlie-change-please/#findComment-1725420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted June 15, 2024 Author Share Posted June 15, 2024 1 hour ago, Jakepeng99 said: It removes the sainity drain downside. 1 hour ago, loopuleasa said: You meant UPSIDE! I mean, it would reduce the hard sanity drop from it but unless it is to affect new players it won't really do much against veterans besides hinder fuel farming a bit. I guess? Neither sounds or feels like it would matter to me, there are always other ways. Just now, HowlVoid said: Wigfrid mains in the corner crying She can enjoy her Lumins being sent directly in her face. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157131-winonas-immunity-to-charlie-change-please/#findComment-1725421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrazJoe Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 Having a perk redundance with an item (Brightshade helm) is kinda sad. Winona already have dupe tap for that. Wish there was an upgrade to dupe tape instead. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157131-winonas-immunity-to-charlie-change-please/#findComment-1725425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frashaw27 Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 Nah, I don't believe that any perk should straight up remove a mechanic of the game. Like the complete Charlie Immunity does remove the inherint danger of Darkness but it does come with it's own downside that you also can't really do anything so it still encourages people to use light sources instead of literally removing the issue all together with literally no cost. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157131-winonas-immunity-to-charlie-change-please/#findComment-1725427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venurix Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 5 hours ago, Jakepeng99 said: It removes the sainity drain downside. Its not a downside, u farm fuel for engines My thought make her charlie glasses can see throw dark is more usefull and also for other players but doesnt protect them from charlie attacks Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157131-winonas-immunity-to-charlie-change-please/#findComment-1725514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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