Will the Crab King's Strident Trident change?

[Keknutui]

At the moment, we will get at least new bumpers from the crab king. However, besides the altar, our "BELOVED" crab has another unique item, a trident. He has a lot of problems, like crafting and damage, but the main thing that I think is the discrepancy with the new crab attacks in which there are no more geysers. 
What do you think, is it worth completely reworking his trident because of this?

 

Old Crab king:

 

New Crab King

 

[Alexx7]

i wish you could throw it when you right click and it would apply the wet status on enemies

itd be fun to play around with and considering it is a weapon locked behind a boss that requires a lot of time to get to i think its fine

[ADM]

I would like changes to the Strident Trident yes. It's fine as a tool, to break Sea Stacks without slowing at all or plan a route... but that's all. Since it really is pathetic as a weapon, it's a Dark Sword on the sea, but Dark Swords are absolutely cheap with only a manageable sanity drain. Crafting a trident is very RNG dependent due to the Gnarwails' spawn mechanism, it can take forever to get all three, or not. So from this it cannot be inviting at all to use the trident from the weapon aspect, even damaging with the spell, it's not good. I would always prefer to spend a bit of fuel and a living log then use this to combat but I could only wish for a greater diversity in weapon if they were at least worth it.

 

I would like to see the following changes to the trident :

• Base damage upgraded to 68 on land, doubled on aquatic mobs / on boats. There is a small list of creatures on the ocean and viewing it makes me think a singular weapon to be effective against them is healthy, especially with this being a CK (or Klaus) unlock loot, I believe it would be one more step in the right direction if struggling players were suggested to fight un-pearled CK first to unlock a weapon to help them against the increase in difficulty once pearled.
  Also I don't think it needs to have the damage of an axe on land. So that islands can be visited without requiring another weapon, it can be less powerful here, but not useless.
   
• Improved spell casting and damage. The first issue with the geyser attack is that it is needed to aim outside of the target sprites to manage to use it, damage can be lost for a very unfair reason. We should be able to right click on the targets directly. Also the damage are very bad even if you hit with all geysers, using the spell should be at least viable, or straight up good to defeat certain mobs at sea like escaping Rockjaws but it's really ineffective as of now.
   
• Increased durability... well if the direct damage aren't improved as much as on the first point, then at least the durability of this thing should be massive because 1.5 Dark Sword durability and no sanity drain is not worth reinvesting more time spawning Gnarwails. I don't know what is it about niche items to have bad durability like it used to be on the Thulecite Club or Pick/Axe but it was always good to give them a better durability if they stay as strong as they are.
  
   

Edit : I kind of though back then that the trident should be having an increased reach too but that was mostly to help against the way CK claws behaved since they can be kind of BS when fighting him on a grass raft but it's getting changed so probably not as much of a fair request :/

[Cassielu]

I want it to change.

Trident drop from the old crabking makes sense, but for new crabking it just seems like an unrelated random item.

Considering that it wouldn't have been worth a boss fight anyway, maybe it would have been nice to remove its request for blueprints and then make it a Tier 3 magic or Tier 2 magic craft recipe. Just when the ocean needs more "common" stuff.

[chirsg]

No one has said it yet. Someone made a suggestion that gems should be attached to the trident for it to generate different effects with the right click command.

A blue gem should make ice platforms at sea that become ice floes when they break. 

[Keknutui]

2 hours ago, chirsg said:

Никто еще этого не сказал. Кто-то предложил прикрепить к трезубцу драгоценные камни, чтобы он генерировал различные эффекты с помощью команды щелчка правой кнопкой мыши.

Blue gem должен создавать ледяные платформы в море, которые при разбивании превращаются в льдины.

Any interaction that relates to the horse crab king will already be a huge breakthrough 

[GreenBowers]

6 hours ago, chirsg said:

No one has said it yet. Someone made a suggestion that gems should be attached to the trident for it to generate different effects with the right click command.

A blue gem should make ice platforms at sea that become ice floes when they break. 

I want this so bad. 

Being able to slot different gems to get different spells would be so cool. Since you slot in different gems to change attributes about crab king, I think it just makes sense to be able to slot different gems in the crab king specific weapon to change its function.

If not that, then I would make it so you can water geyser on land, make it come directly from the trident as a blast that soaks an enemy. At least then it would have a niche as both a ranged weapon and a way to set up electricity weapons.

[Swiyss]

This item SHOULD be strong. Actually it should even be a rushing item where you would rush it for a specific path.

All of that cause of the items circumstances.

[GreenBowers]

If we can't get new mechanics, then I would totally settle for everything @ADM suggested. 

There aren't very many Sea-Based enemies so having the Strident do darksword damage on land, and even greater amounts at sea would give it a nice niche. This is a weapon that only unlocks once you beat one of the main bossess to progress toward end game, and its not one people really even use that much in the first place, so buffing it should be fine.

[Cruvimaster]

I don't know what changes might come, but I hope Strident Trident continues to remove these items from the ocean. That's the only use I have for it.

[Jakepeng99]

Let us socket gems in it for different abilities.

[yyyyyyyyyyyyyyy]

I wonder if Klei had removed CK's old attacks at all. If so, the trident is a bit inappropriate as a CK's drop since its crafts and spring attack are irrelevant with CK then. From this point of view, the trident's rework is necessary to a certain degree.

Or maybe we could get its blueprint from a sunken chest? Anyway I hope trident's unique spring attack could be preserved.

[AliceShiki]

17 hours ago, Cruvimaster said:

I don't know what changes might come, but I hope Strident Trident continues to remove these items from the ocean. That's the only use I have for it.

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[arubaro]

I like it. Is a good tool to catch fish, relocate kelp, break rocks and salt and a aoe range weapon (it accelerates killing sharks). I only want a durability buff so i dont rely that much on green gems

[Keknutui]

22 hours ago, yyyyyyyyyyyyyyy said:

Интересно, удалила ли Klei вообще старые атаки CK. Если да, то трезубец немного неуместен в качестве дропа CK, поскольку его ремесла и весенняя атака тогда неуместны для CK. С этой точки зрения, доработка трезубца в определенной степени необходима.

Или, может быть, мы могли бы достать его чертеж из затонувшего сундука? В любом случае, я надеюсь, что уникальная весенняя атака трезубца может быть сохранена.

Judging by the attacks, yes, they were deleted

18 hours ago, arubaro said:

Мне это нравится. Это хороший инструмент для ловли рыбы, перемещения водорослей, дробления камней и соли, а также оружие дальнобойности aoe (ускоряет убийство акул). Я хочу только увеличить прочность, поэтому не слишком полагаюсь на зеленые камни

If they don't want to radically change it, then I think it's worth at least increasing the strength and adding the ability to repair the trident. I think like they did with the spear of Wigfried, but in a special way

[Cr4zyFl4mes]

I like its current abilities, though i agree it is pretty costly. I wouldn't change the recipe, but would like it to be repairable somehow. But I also like the suggestion for socketing gems for different abilities.

My two cents to this topic would be, the trident should be somehow boosted for Wurt. Perhaps greater control over her loyal merms?

[Jakepeng99]

15 hours ago, Cr4zyFl4mes said:

My two cents to this topic would be, the trident should be somehow boosted for Wurt. Perhaps greater control over her loyal merms?

I don't think that should be linked to the trident.

[Cr4zyFl4mes]

7 hours ago, Jakepeng99 said:

I don't think that should be linked to the trident.

Are you disagreeing with the "somehow boosted" part or the "perhaps" part? I don't really care about the specific suggestion, that was just brainstorming.
Another "perhaps" could be the merms would follow her without the need to feed them if she was holding the trident (similarly to spiderhat).

Btw, Wigfrid's charged elding spear is linked to the lunar storms, i don't see a problem gating a strong ability behind somewhat hard-to-find and (i guess) mid-difficulty boss.

Thematically the trident being a weapon that raises her authority over the merms makes sense.