HowlVoid Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 I'll get to the point: We have no mods on console and with that comes a lack in any sort of help when placing structures. The developers initial response was that it was because it wasn't in their initial vision of the game. However, we have come very far in terms of revising that vision of what is and isn't allowed. We have an NPC We have objectives in the form of skill trees We have crockpot recipes in the game We have a beastiary And we even have purely decorative structures now (with skins we pay real money for) So I think it's time, it's time to add assisted placement of structures in the form of a grid. This can be done with a Wagstaff structure that when activated places a grid over a large area. Yes, I know there are other methods to get a pretty close substitute to a grid (with carpet) but after a hours of playtime the imperfections add up. The grid could offer all kinds of information including the temperature in different areas (for above average tree range, scaled furnace range, etc) and the range of lightning rods. Structures could have small virtual notes above them letting you know what they are protected by (with a toggle to deactivate the Wagstaff structure). What's more it would be endgame, and now is the time development has been more inclined to endgame play It's time Klei, please here the cries of millions of console players with crooked chests. Chests that once hammered can't be placed in the same place without destroying more things around it because the structure hit box doesn't match how big the item is (or some other funky placement priority). Just wanted to add a special thank you to all the PC folks who support us on console. You guys are amazing. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152652-small-console-rant-the-time-is-now-klei/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masked Koopa Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 hour ago, HowlVoid said: Chests that once hammered can't be placed in the same place without destroying more things around it because the structure hit box doesn't match how big the item is (or some other funky placement priority). Ok but can they please change this as well Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152652-small-console-rant-the-time-is-now-klei/#findComment-1682134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhollow Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 things that should happen too; -Disable Caves (Or make input lag no longer exist, at least in Solo) -Give more world generation options (There are only Normal and Large on Xbox and PS4 ((not sure on that))). -If the Klei Official Servers on Xbox don't exist, why then is there an option to select them? Might aswell remove that. -Give button rearrangement option And I would say only for now. It may seem like a lot, but compared to how long the game has existed on Xbox, PS4, and Switch, I'd say it's fair to charge for a QOL on those platforms. I appreciate, of course, that the game is present on these platforms. But bringing updates at the same PC pace, fixing critical bugs only when necessary, and never paying attention to a QOL, is incorrect in my opinion. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152652-small-console-rant-the-time-is-now-klei/#findComment-1682186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 I mean.. your whining about a grid in which we don’t really need, and won’t impact actual gameplay in any significant way beyond pretty base design, MEANWHILE I’m wishing they’d put that team of Devs they said they hired to work EXCLUSIVELY on improving the quality of the game on Consoles to good use.. What do I mean? Well for one- It would help a lot if pressing B to turn on/off a Lantern wasnt also the same damn button to Teleport Wortox AWAY from the lantern. I would also heavily appreciate an Option to Tap Y to pull up my skill tree without that also Inspecting random crap in the world (that really should be bound to Holding Y..) A more reliable way of switching between Walking Cane and Weapons would be extra helpful & put us on par with PC.. Rowing a Boat Oar probably shouldn’t be bound to the same button as extract/retract the Plank.. Dropping a stack of items on the ground including a Firestaff should not instantly set the stack of items on fire when you attempt to pick up said Firestaff. Theres way way wayyyyyy more problems with console that actually DO Significantly impact Gameplay, beyond some silly grid placement I can live my entire life without. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152652-small-console-rant-the-time-is-now-klei/#findComment-1682190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archswifter Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 I always figured they just don't bother because it's way less profitable on the console side of things honesty, along with being busy trying to get them to sync up with the PC updates. Each system it's on has it's own problems as well; Crashes from both Xbox & PS4 users for one reason or another (on disconnect/rollback/etc...), that one thing with Xbox cloud/console data resetting under some niche scenarios, (probably) performance issues on the Switch version given the hardware, no Dedicated/Klei servers for one or two platforms, some buttons being mapped to similar important actions like mounting/weather-pain/teleporting/etc... And in this case just a long requested QOL bit that's referring to a "Grid-Mode" kind of thing similar to that mod most people use on the PC version, it reminds me a tad of some games that have an option for "Detailed Descriptions" so you can know how much damage you take or give for instance or weapon/armor stat values. It does feel like they're leaning these directions (Craftable berries, DMG Dummy Targets, Pillars, actual Pause Button) in their own way through the game. Specifically for console though...? Nah, don't see it happing for a good while. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152652-small-console-rant-the-time-is-now-klei/#findComment-1682198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirsg Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 I don't play console, but I believe it's every player's right to have geometric placement. If I had to concede that it affects survival, it would affect it purely psychologically. I'll champion this. Also, for console players, I think mouse and keyboard support should be integrated as well. Also crossplay. It would be healthy if console players were able to play without having to host on their machines not suited to host servers. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152652-small-console-rant-the-time-is-now-klei/#findComment-1682199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowlVoid Posted November 29, 2023 Author Share Posted November 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: You think I haven't asked for a tool wheel? I have. You think I haven't asked for button remapping? I have. I have made the suggestions mike, but I'm not going to be a squeaky wheel about it. Its obvious such things require a lot of developer time and money and if they had it I'm sure it would of been done. The reason I'm "whining" about a grid is because we are getting more items with "aura" type passives and grids would help with optimal placement. To add to this they have also added furniture type structures; surely to bolster sales. I assure you my suggestion would have some impact to the game, having a clean and optimal base becomes more and more welcome if you decide to keep a world long term. It's fine if you can live without it, but what you're asking for (and many console players including myself have asked for) is for a complete overhaul of controls. Unless Klei sees a large amount of push back from people outsides this forum (full of PC folks) it's not going to happen. In comparison what I'm asking for is far more reasonable. Respectfully Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152652-small-console-rant-the-time-is-now-klei/#findComment-1682203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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