thetrueprime Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 Currently, it's a year per boss item limited by bearger. Bad enough for single player worlds, this is incredibly painful for multiplayer worlds. Here's a 4 part idea to resolve it: 1. Still get Wagstaff's spark ark after killing all three for the first time (and more on the next three for ease of use) 2. Make the ark not consumed when you craft items, just the spark inside 3. Make the moon corrupted versions now drop a new item that you need for each of the special items 4. Make bearger be able to be called in with the hostile flare more times in autumn What this does: You still need to face all of them, which is important as the difficulty of some is harder than others: the challenge of all is essential You can now choose to face more when you can in order to farm out all the stuff you need. There is still technically a limit from gloomer goop if you really rush this stuff on big servers but that disappears in longer worlds (which I think is fair balance) The new items are all really cool (even if the deerclops one needs a little bit of tuning :D), I don't think it needs to be so long to get more of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_zwb Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 It baffles me how Klei developers designed boss fights with the pre-assumption of multiplayer and completely forgot about it when designing boss loot. Hope this gets changed soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 On 9/29/2023 at 2:01 PM, thetrueprime said: Make bearger be able to be called in with the hostile flare more times in autumn You can spawn him in tho ignore this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCCR33 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 We can only rotate carrots to distribute loot now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrueprime Posted September 30, 2023 Author Share Posted September 30, 2023 Hopefully we'll see some tweaks on this as we move into the second week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeRoboButler Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 On 9/29/2023 at 5:01 AM, thetrueprime said: Make bearger be able to be called in with the hostile flare more times in autumn. this could be good... let me think aloud here... kill deerclops, kill varg when ever, kill bearger, get the item summon bearger, kill him, summon him again and leave him alive, kill deerclops, kill varg, get item kill bearger whilst winter is still present again, possibly using cannons or mush cake to resist sleeping... yeesh this is kinda convoluted isn't it. I think that it could be a bit concerning if you could summon bearger within the fist autumn but then again, we can summon deerclops when we want with the flare so meh should be fine. quite a bit of hoops for a hand held super fridge/tooth gun/ or a mega summer counter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatAndRun Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 If we can summon bearger by hostile flair, theoratically we can get 2 spark ark in 1 year. Autumn - Kill bearger - summon bearger - Winter - kill deerclops & varg - kill bearger - summon deerclops - kill deerclops & varg. Oh my... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiiliam Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 I think maybe we use something to exchange some special blueprint from Wagstaff. Those thing used to exchange must be something unique, which is dropped by moon bearger, moon dearclop, moon varg. Of course if many player want to learn those blueprints, it needs kill moon bearger, moon dearclop, moon varg many times to exchange blueprints. If not about blueprints, just new items, more than one new item can be accessed in a year because of next point. Those new items must be crafted by some fragments of Celestial crown. Since one crown has few fragments, if you need many new items, players need to kill Celestia champion multiple times. This point it that we limit those new items not be overwhelming. Of course if you are good player, all you need to do is kill moon bearger, moon dearclop, moon varg one time, then you can kill Celestial champion many times, since Celestial champion can be summoned in different season every year. And this point works for multiplayers too, one drawback is that bearger blueprint can be exchanged one time in a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dois raios Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 On 9/29/2023 at 9:01 AM, thetrueprime said: Make bearger be able to be called in with the hostile flare more times in autumn how would this solve the problem? no matter how many times you kill him, you still need to defeat deerclops, and you can only spawn deerclops on winter, this still means a limit of one spark ark per year ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenship2 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, dois raios said: how would this solve the problem? no matter how many times you kill him, you still need to defeat deerclops, and you can only spawn deerclops on winter, this still means a limit of one spark ark per year ;-; you can already use the hostile flare on deerclops, so as long as you have a sufficient amount of flares you would be able to get multiple per year if bearger had one :> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dois raios Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 15 minutes ago, lenship2 said: you can already use the hostile flare on deerclops, so as long as you have a sufficient amount of flares you would be able to get multiple per year if bearger had one :> you will spawn bearger in autumn, wait till winter, spawn deerclops, then spawn varg, so you gain 1 spark ark. Then what? will you go back in time to autumn again, then repeat the process? see the problem now? XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, dois raios said: you will spawn bearger in autumn, wait till winter, spawn deerclops, then spawn varg, so you gain 1 spark ark. Then what? will you go back in time to autumn again, then repeat the process? see the problem now? XD Kill bearger respawn and keep for next batch kill deerclops kill varg kill bearger that was kept kill deerclops kill varg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dois raios Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, gamehun20 said: Kill bearger respawn and keep for next batch kill deerclops kill varg kill bearger that was kept kill deerclops kill varg ohhhh, now I understand, this way we can have 2 spark ark per year instead of 1. thx for the insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 I want a lunar varient of malbatross which is the only other non raid boss on the surface Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Now that I think about it this will probably resolve itself in time when more lunar bosses are added to take the place of bearger though I could be wrong as I haven't had time to do the wagstaff quest yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Doesn’t the hostile flare let you spawn in the bosses after having already killed them? I thought it was how Klei solved players needing to wait 6 years to get everyone an umbrella?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: Doesn’t the hostile flare let you spawn in the bosses Only deerclops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrueprime Posted October 1, 2023 Author Share Posted October 1, 2023 7 hours ago, dois raios said: how would this solve the problem? no matter how many times you kill him, you still need to defeat deerclops, and you can only spawn deerclops on winter, this still means a limit of one spark ark per year ;-; Ah yup, well as well as being able to double dip with the right timing, the idea was also to combine it with a reusable spark ark + unique drops. So reusable spark ark you earn from killing them all once then unique drops from each to make more of their item Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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