Pticman Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 After a couple of tests, I came to the conclusion that the new armor protects the character from plants worse than dreadstone armor. (see the spoiler) What makes me question - why is this armor needed at all? I understand the idea of the developers that brightshade armor performs the function of protection from new mobs. The problem is that, as you can see in the test, she loses in where she should be stronger in theory. So can the new armor see some buff? Maybe increase its protection from lunar creatures? As far as I know, now it is 25% with a full set, why not increase it to 35% at least? Another option is increasing the damage to shadow creatures from 10% to 15% or 20%, or make two changes at once. Spoiler Here the player takes damage from the vines wearing only 1 armor piece. As you can see, the numbers are the same. When wearing two pieces of armour brithshade armor loses by 3 points. You should consider that the vines will provide the most potential damage from the deadly brithshade because taking damage from the plant itself is easily avoidable. If the player attacks the brightshade in the defensive form, a player in dreadstone armor receives 13 more damage, but you don't want to attack the plant in that form anyway. (46 damage is the damage dealt by the sword to the plant) So why would you bother with the new armor, if it just worse even protecting against lunar creatures and has no benefits like dreadstone armor has? That's a good question... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147217-brightshade-armor-has-worse-protection-than-dreadstone-armor-against-new-creatures/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaZoul Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Pticman said: So why would you bother with the new armor Because it's not ugly Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147217-brightshade-armor-has-worse-protection-than-dreadstone-armor-against-new-creatures/#findComment-1630399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pticman Posted April 17, 2023 Author Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 hour ago, DaZoul said: Because it's not ugly Fair point. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147217-brightshade-armor-has-worse-protection-than-dreadstone-armor-against-new-creatures/#findComment-1630415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonboooorn Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 hour ago, DaZoul said: Because it's not ugly a helmet that can hide survivors ugly mug? sign me up Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147217-brightshade-armor-has-worse-protection-than-dreadstone-armor-against-new-creatures/#findComment-1630423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakhnish Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Team Nightmare Fuel FTW!!! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147217-brightshade-armor-has-worse-protection-than-dreadstone-armor-against-new-creatures/#findComment-1630437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudoku Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 when we get more dangerous rift mobs i'd imagine the new armor will provide more value. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147217-brightshade-armor-has-worse-protection-than-dreadstone-armor-against-new-creatures/#findComment-1630466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB Marioni Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 based on what I'm seeing, seems like they are going for a theme where lunar items are more offensive and shadow items are more defensive. The high reduction items seem to be all shadow aligned, while shield of terror can also be considered as a defensive weapon. Then the new lunar gears have lower base defense, though they do protect you more from planar dmg, but also buffs damage and pierces planar defense as well. Not to mention the bonus damages vs shadow enemies, which we are having more and more lately. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147217-brightshade-armor-has-worse-protection-than-dreadstone-armor-against-new-creatures/#findComment-1630474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxtonnnn Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 11 hours ago, BB Marioni said: based on what I'm seeing, seems like they are going for a theme where lunar items are more offensive and shadow items are more defensive. If this what they’re going for, I would’ve thought it’d be the other around tbh. Shadows seem more aggressive, and even in their respective ‘final’ battles, CC is DEFENDING Alter, while Fuelweaver is HOLDING the shadows back Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147217-brightshade-armor-has-worse-protection-than-dreadstone-armor-against-new-creatures/#findComment-1630552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrocator Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 23 hours ago, DaZoul said: Because it's not ugly People got by with skinless football helmets for years and years. Then with the eyemask… Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147217-brightshade-armor-has-worse-protection-than-dreadstone-armor-against-new-creatures/#findComment-1630560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudoku Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Paxtonnnn said: If this what they’re going for, I would’ve thought it’d be the other around tbh. Shadows seem more aggressive, and even in their respective ‘final’ battles, CC is DEFENDING Alter, while Fuelweaver is HOLDING the shadows back if we eventually head into the direction of an all out war between the lunar side and shadow side maybe lunar gear would be more effective against shadow aligned mobs and shadow gear would be more effective against lunar alligned mobs. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147217-brightshade-armor-has-worse-protection-than-dreadstone-armor-against-new-creatures/#findComment-1630578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masked Koopa Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 3 hours ago, abrocator said: People got by with skinless football helmets for years and years. Then with the eyemask… Eyemask looks cool Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147217-brightshade-armor-has-worse-protection-than-dreadstone-armor-against-new-creatures/#findComment-1630589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB Marioni Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 12 hours ago, Paxtonnnn said: If this what they’re going for, I would’ve thought it’d be the other around tbh. Shadows seem more aggressive, and even in their respective ‘final’ battles, CC is DEFENDING Alter, while Fuelweaver is HOLDING the shadows back maybe that's the case for monsters, then it's the other way around for players? I dunno, just seems that way. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147217-brightshade-armor-has-worse-protection-than-dreadstone-armor-against-new-creatures/#findComment-1630677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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