Jakepeng99 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 I noticed the changes to the nightmare clockworks which added shadow alignment to them in the recent hotfix, i tested a few creatures which did not have this mechanic: *The ancient Guardian. *Beardlords and Beardlings. *The twins of terror. *Splumonkeys. It would be cool to have these, as this mechanic needs some extra targets for it, the ancient guardian and twins of terror being some useful and impactful targets, it would allow the new lunar set to be great at dealing with them, and combined with the splumonkey change, makes these equipments great at the ruins which would be fun. Also allows some consistency. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147106-some-nightmare-creatures-that-can-use-shadow-alignment/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassielu Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 At the moment, giving planar resist abilities to the boss is a horrible idea; it's basically doubling the boss's health. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147106-some-nightmare-creatures-that-can-use-shadow-alignment/#findComment-1629513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxwell_winters Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Cassielu said: At the moment, giving planar resist abilities to the boss is a horrible idea; it's basically doubling the boss's health. I think the OP confused planar damage and extra damage that brightshade gear deals to shadow enemies. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147106-some-nightmare-creatures-that-can-use-shadow-alignment/#findComment-1629514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloopah Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Jakepeng99 said: I noticed the changes to the nightmare clockworks which added planary mechanics to them in the recent hotfix, i tested a few creatures which did not have this mechanic: *The ancient Guardian. *Beardlords and Beardlings. *The twins of terror. *Splumonkeys. It would be cool to have these, as this mechanic needs some extra targets for it, the ancient guardian and twins of terror being some useful and impactful targets, it would allow the new lunar set to be great at dealing with them, and combined with the splumonkey change, makes these equipments great at the ruins which would be fun. Also allows some consistency. why yes, let's punish players for not using the specific end-game gear to fight these pre-cc enemies Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147106-some-nightmare-creatures-that-can-use-shadow-alignment/#findComment-1629518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 4 hours ago, Jakepeng99 said: I noticed the changes to the nightmare clockworks which added planary mechanics to them in the recent hotfix, i tested a few creatures which did not have this mechanic: This seems a bit misleading. They don't actually have the planar mechanics like the new mobs do, they were just made Shadow Aligned and thus take the extra damage from the Plant Sword and from Wilson. (With shadow perk.) (Same effects of the shadow vs lunar perks applied, I.E Wilson taking less damage as Wilson and when wearing the plant armor.) Currently nothing uses Planar on the shadow side, aside from the dev testing dummy. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147106-some-nightmare-creatures-that-can-use-shadow-alignment/#findComment-1629522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 1 minute ago, -Variant said: they were just made Shadow Aligned I think that's what they meant like make those mobs shadow aligned too or something Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147106-some-nightmare-creatures-that-can-use-shadow-alignment/#findComment-1629523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, gamehun20 said: I think that's what they meant like make those mobs shadow aligned too or something Ah, if that's the suggestion that'd make far more sense. Though that isn't related to Planar, which is its own thing! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147106-some-nightmare-creatures-that-can-use-shadow-alignment/#findComment-1629526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted April 12, 2023 Author Share Posted April 12, 2023 I meant shadow alignment i thought it was called planary damage can we start over please? I thought everyone would understand because of the clockwork comparision, or read fhe corrections in the comments. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147106-some-nightmare-creatures-that-can-use-shadow-alignment/#findComment-1629531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinja Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said: I meant shadow alignment i thought it was called planary damage can we start over please? I knew what ya meant and I think it’s a good idea Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147106-some-nightmare-creatures-that-can-use-shadow-alignment/#findComment-1629532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted April 12, 2023 Author Share Posted April 12, 2023 Thanks. Maybe the rabbits can not be done because of how they function client side, i am not sure how it works, though i believe the rest work and make wilson better. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147106-some-nightmare-creatures-that-can-use-shadow-alignment/#findComment-1629533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulisesvolador Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said: Maybe the rabbits can not be done because of how they function client side It could work if it affects rabbits and bunnymen that were transformed by using Maxwell's Shadow Sneak. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147106-some-nightmare-creatures-that-can-use-shadow-alignment/#findComment-1629534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted April 15, 2023 Author Share Posted April 15, 2023 Looks like they added the ancient guardian, and the were pig which is nice, but not eyes of terror, splumonkey and rabbits. I kind of wanted to repost this because i called it planary damage at first which caused alot of backlash, though no idea if the developers saw the updated version or if it is justified or nice. :() Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147106-some-nightmare-creatures-that-can-use-shadow-alignment/#findComment-1630033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloopah Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said: Looks like they added the ancient guardian, and the were pig which is nice, but not eyes of terror, splumonkey and rabbits. I kind of wanted to repost this because i called it planary damage at first which caused alot of backlash, though no idea if the developers saw the updated version or if it is justified or nice. :() "during fight" probably means second phase when he's leaking tentacles Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147106-some-nightmare-creatures-that-can-use-shadow-alignment/#findComment-1630036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogard78 Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Is Charlie considered shadow aligned? I unfortunetly can't check this with Wilson but I think dreadstone armor works on alignment and if thats the case then Charlie is not considered shadow aligned. Not that it would be usefull but more of a flavor thing, and fitting I guess. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147106-some-nightmare-creatures-that-can-use-shadow-alignment/#findComment-1630116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted April 21, 2023 Author Share Posted April 21, 2023 They did not add the shadow alignment to the other mobs non guardian in any of the hotfixes so i don't think they ever will which is kind of weird. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147106-some-nightmare-creatures-that-can-use-shadow-alignment/#findComment-1631170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neu7ral Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 Twins of Terror are not aligned with the Shadows. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147106-some-nightmare-creatures-that-can-use-shadow-alignment/#findComment-1631172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waitdire Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 I think splumonkeys should have this tag too, just look at their shadow sprite during the nightmare phase. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147106-some-nightmare-creatures-that-can-use-shadow-alignment/#findComment-1631211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted April 22, 2023 Author Share Posted April 22, 2023 Yeah i mentioned splumonkeys. If they were to add shadow alignment to these mobs they would have done it by now. It is weird and inconsistent. 21 hours ago, Neu7ral said: Twins of Terror are not aligned with the Shadows. They drop nightmare fuel, and are shadow clockworks. They should be. Their shield is classified as a nightmare weapon too as it also drops fuel. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147106-some-nightmare-creatures-that-can-use-shadow-alignment/#findComment-1631359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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