DVGMedia Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Hello Back again with another Public challenge Previous challenge was the slurper challenge. To see how long the Player can survive with a slurper on their head. This new challenge is now King of winter! Can you survive a long winter without fire? Rules are you start the world in winter set to long. You can not burn anything to get heat back. No campfires no pits no torches or Magma pools. Victory is surviving the full long winter. You can use any character you like to plan out your strategy. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145638-king-of-winter-challenge/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestymun Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Is using spicey foods allowed? What about fire nettles? What about unavoidable heat sources such as the spawn light when you enter or exit the caves? Also I believe torches don't act as a heat source. If you can't rush caves due to the spawn light, early game light will come down to running though fireflies. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145638-king-of-winter-challenge/#findComment-1617960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Safety Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Are thermal circuits allowed? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145638-king-of-winter-challenge/#findComment-1617961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestymun Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 To my understanding, you have to do a consecutive run because leaving and joining creates a heat source, and you can't go to the caves because that creates a heat source. Also you mentioned 40 days, so presumably you meant very long winter rather than long winter. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145638-king-of-winter-challenge/#findComment-1617967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swag Master69 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 The rules state that no pits are allowed, does this also include endothermic fire pits? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145638-king-of-winter-challenge/#findComment-1617968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVGMedia Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, Swag Master69 said: The rules state that no pits are allowed, does this also include endothermic fire pits? well endo can use for light. Its more just to avoid warming up. 1 hour ago, Jestymun said: Is using spicey foods allowed? What about fire nettles? What about unavoidable heat sources such as the spawn light when you enter or exit the caves? Also I believe torches don't act as a heat source. If you can't rush caves due to the spawn light, early game light will come down to running though fireflies. torch is allowed for light But cant use it to burn things for heat. Just normal heat sources are dissallowed. So starcaller, burning things, campfire, firepit, scaled furnace, magma pools, Spawn light is kind of unavoidable when entering caves but it only gives 10 degrees safety net. abusing it though i would say would not count for the challenge. warming foods nettles ect. are one thing im thinking of but thats for people to try Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145638-king-of-winter-challenge/#findComment-1617970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spino43 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Sounds quite impossible, due to having basically zero ways to regain heat. The most plausible way to get heat with these restrictions is from food, but even then food heat sources are really bad. I am looking forward to see if it's even possible. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145638-king-of-winter-challenge/#findComment-1617977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestymun Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 How would we submit the completed challenge? I've got a freind doing it right now but that's 5 hours of gameplay which would be a pain to upload Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145638-king-of-winter-challenge/#findComment-1617978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 No heat sources.. but Winter Cap, Beefalo Hat, Hibernation Vest = Heat Sources.. I am beyond confused. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145638-king-of-winter-challenge/#findComment-1617981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimzowitsch10 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 The most obvious way to beat this seems like wx thermal circuit. If wx is not allowed I can see wortox just killing bees all winter to heal endlessly. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145638-king-of-winter-challenge/#findComment-1617982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swag Master69 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 It seems that even when set to Very Long winter only lasts 20 days. But anyhoo did the challenge, how do I submit it? Edit: Here's some highlights of the run featuring a very bored me Spoiler Me making sure it's still cold out (it is!) Getting charcoal for a crock pot that only makes lasagna! So pretty! And it matches my fur! Gotta make sure you stay nice and cool! Decorating is fun! Renewable food is good to have! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145638-king-of-winter-challenge/#findComment-1617983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lardee Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Is this item banned as well? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145638-king-of-winter-challenge/#findComment-1617987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuardDuty Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: No heat sources.. but Winter Cap, Beefalo Hat, Hibernation Vest = Heat Sources.. I am beyond confused. Winter Cap, Beefalo Hat, Hibernation Vest =/= Heat Sources. Wearing insulation clothes changes nothing when you are already freezing, except fashion. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145638-king-of-winter-challenge/#findComment-1617989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Spino43 said: The most plausible way to get heat with these restrictions is from food, but even then food heat sources are really bad. Pepper poppers and spicy chili are very good, or warly’s spicy heating food. Those, with high insulation clothing and comfortable sleeping (tent, Walter’s portable tent, Webber’s spider nest or fur roll) are most likely the non perma healing wortox way to go. WX’s heat circuits should probably be banned, it’s a rush of a single thing that completely removes the active part of the challenge. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145638-king-of-winter-challenge/#findComment-1617990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVGMedia Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 Yeah certainly good to discuss what should be allowed. Usually I get people to record but 40 days may be alot. Personally I would love it if klei did like some challenge game mode that could give spools if you complete it. Unique survival situations with different survivors so that players can come by and try their hands at it. Maybe make it so top 100 players get spools or something Have like a score based on what the character does.. something that players can do when they don't got hours to play lol Honestly I think banning wx and wortox. wortox always kind of breaks these challenges just cause of mass healing. which kind of ruins it. and well wx wins if he can scan dfly and get a red gem. but will have to wait and see on that. on how hard/ easy that is. since its graves rng. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145638-king-of-winter-challenge/#findComment-1617991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swag Master69 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, DVGMedia said: Honestly I think banning wx and wortox. wortox always kind of breaks these challenges just cause of mass healing. which kind of ruins it. and well wx wins if he can scan dfly and get a red gem. but will have to wait and see on that. on how hard/ easy that is. since its graves rng. Welp I did the challenge as Wortox. Guess I'm going to have to redo it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145638-king-of-winter-challenge/#findComment-1617992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVGMedia Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Swag Master69 said: Welp I did the challenge as Wortox. Guess I'm going to have to redo it. you don't have to worry too much about it I just think it goes against the reason for the challenge. Just mass healing kind of makes it boring and not really a challenge. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145638-king-of-winter-challenge/#findComment-1617993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swag Master69 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 It was indeed boring and not a challenge but i shall do it correctly this time. I'll be back tomorrow. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145638-king-of-winter-challenge/#findComment-1617994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 17 minutes ago, DVGMedia said: Yeah certainly good to discuss what should be allowed. Usually I get people to record but 40 days may be alot. Personally I would love it if klei did like some challenge game mode that could give spools if you complete it. Unique survival situations with different survivors so that players can come by and try their hands at it. Maybe make it so top 100 players get spools or something Have like a score based on what the character does.. something that players can do when they don't got hours to play lol Honestly I think banning wx and wortox. wortox always kind of breaks these challenges just cause of mass healing. which kind of ruins it. and well wx wins if he can scan dfly and get a red gem. but will have to wait and see on that. on how hard/ easy that is. since its graves rng. So another game I play is called Spelunky 2 and it’s a rogue lite game with randomly generated worlds like DS/DST, except Spleunky 2 has a Daily Challenge: You only get ONE chance at it.. but you will play on a custom selected randomly generated map that everyone will get to play on (outside of daily challenge your games a complete randomized mess of chaos) The Daily Challenge keeps track of how far you get, how well you perform, loot collected, fastest completion, etc.. which lets players compare how well they did on the challenge. I imagine that DST Could get a similar mode… but we would ALL need to be playing on the same world with the same challenges, like Spelunky 2 Daily. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145638-king-of-winter-challenge/#findComment-1617995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestymun Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 very long winter only lasts 20 days when you start in winter, so in order to do 40 I'm pretty sure you'd have to make it indefinite winter. So are we supposed to survive a very long winter or 40 days of indefinite winter? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145638-king-of-winter-challenge/#findComment-1617996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spino43 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: No heat sources.. but Winter Cap, Beefalo Hat, Hibernation Vest = Heat Sources.. I am beyond confused. You have no idea how clothes items work. They only delay overheating/freezing, they DO NOT give you heat/cool you down (fashion melon/ice cube are exception) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145638-king-of-winter-challenge/#findComment-1617998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gi-Go Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 A bit too easy for my taste, but the idea is quite fun. I neglected food warth my entire life and this challenge gave me a good taste as to why (this mechanic sucks). Didn't bother recording and desided to call it quits after killing clops, so no prize for me. Also, you can't get charcoal for pots without breaking the fire rule so I think Warly is the single correct character choice. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145638-king-of-winter-challenge/#findComment-1618012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Gi-Go said: A bit too easy for my taste, but the idea is quite fun. I neglected food warth my entire life and this challenge gave me a good taste as to why (this mechanic sucks). Didn't bother recording and desided to call it quits after killing clops, so no prize for me. Also, you can't get charcoal for pots without breaking the fire rule so I think Warly is the single correct character choice. Can’t you get Charcoals from already burned trees? Like Firefly’s Magma maybe not enough to build a crockpot but, charcoals Charcoal. also you can find existing crockpots in the world in set piece or the stone Klin in archives (Warly would still be the most optimal choice..) However when I played my winter only world I did so as Wurt, who can live off just munching freshly plucked berries/carrots her entire lifetime. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145638-king-of-winter-challenge/#findComment-1618019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gi-Go Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Mike23Ua said: Can’t you get Charcoals from already burned trees? Like Firefly’s Magma maybe not enough to build a crockpot but, charcoals Charcoal. Breaks the fire rule because the trees are too close to lava so you will get heated. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145638-king-of-winter-challenge/#findComment-1618020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swag Master69 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Gi-Go said: Also, you can't get charcoal for pots without breaking the fire rule so I think Warly is the single correct character choice. It's a bit slow but you can get charcoal by farming Krampus Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145638-king-of-winter-challenge/#findComment-1618025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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