QuartzBeam Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Currently, the Seawreath is in a pretty bad spot cause it takes 6 days to drain ~64 sanity, whereas eating its ingredients gives 120 sanity (twice as much) on the spot. Even for those who can't eat Kelp Fronds (Wigfrid and Warly), the Seawreath is still too slow to be worth it. It should give at least -3.33 sanity/minute (negative Top Hat), or better yet, given the comparative rarity of enlightenment areas, -6.67 sanity/minute (negative Tam o Shanter). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138253-suggestion-buff-the-seawreaths-sanity-drain/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlrust Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Reducing the recipe by at least half would also help as well. That's a lot of potential hunger wasted on something that lasts only 6 days. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138253-suggestion-buff-the-seawreaths-sanity-drain/#findComment-1548300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baark0 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 hours ago, QuartzBeam said: It should give at least -3.33 sanity/minute (negative Top Hat), or better yet, given the comparative rarity of enlightenment areas, -6.67 sanity/minute (negative Tam o Shanter). imo sounds kinda dumb to give a hat made out of kelp the strength to ward off the aura of the moon, and considering it takes hardly any effort to craft one, where as tam requires you to survive until winter and kill a mob that only spawns like 6 times in 1 winter, and only has a 25% chance of dropping one. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138253-suggestion-buff-the-seawreaths-sanity-drain/#findComment-1548316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuartzBeam Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share Posted March 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Baark0 said: imo sounds kinda dumb to give a hat made out of kelp the strength to ward off the aura of the moon Yeah, it'd be like wearing a fancy hat to ward off the power of the shadows that consumed an entire civilization. 6 minutes ago, Baark0 said: considering it takes hardly any effort to craft one It takes no effort and it functionally useless, cause it takes 6 days to drain half as much sanity as its ingredients can drain in 6 seconds. 7 minutes ago, Baark0 said: where as tam requires you to survive until winter and kill a mob that only spawns like 6 times in 1 winter, and only has a 25% chance of dropping one The tam is also universally useful, whereas the Seawreath is only (theoretically) useful on the Lunar Island and in the Lunar Grotto, and even then it's only (potentially) useful as something you'll craft on your first visit to the Lunar Island. (Afterwards, you'll be able to farm Kelp Fronds on your own and you're probably gonna eat them raw if you want to lose sanity.) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138253-suggestion-buff-the-seawreaths-sanity-drain/#findComment-1548323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowlVoid Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 29 minutes ago, QuartzBeam said: Yeah, it'd be like wearing a fancy hat to ward off the power of the shadows that consumed an entire civilization. To be fair, it's daperness that wards off insanity by strengthening the characters confidence (I'm assuming). The moons influence is something else entirely. Quote It takes no effort and it functionally useless, cause it takes 6 days to drain half as much sanity as its ingredients can drain in 6 seconds. The tam is also universally useful, whereas the Seawreath is only (theoretically) useful on the Lunar Island and in the Lunar Grotto, and even then it's only (potentially) useful as something you'll craft on your first visit to the Lunar Island. (Afterwards, you'll be able to farm Kelp Fronds on your own and you're probably gonna eat them raw if you want to lose sanity.) I think that even if we increase the effect it won't make the item any more useful. The parts of the game that require protection from the moons influence are very minimal and isolated. Suffering from high enlightenment is also not a big hazard as gestalts are very much of a threat. For battles it's also better to use the bone helmet as it doesn't use durability when simply worn or food that offers instant respite. Even if you were to double or triple the effects of the Aurora, eating it for the instant effect would still be favorable I'm a pinch. I think a better effect would be to give it summer insulation and increase wtness for those that do not have an eyebrella or summer starts. It won't break records or anything but it will be additional option and give it a summer niche. Another idea is to give it an additional unique ability, as such as acting as a bush hat at sea (pesky sharks) or give immunity to tentacle attacks ( they think you're a tentacle). Just some examples, I'm not feeling too creative right now Edit: I think reducing the aggro range from water mobs would be great. It would allow the player to fish in any area provided they don't get too close or attack first. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138253-suggestion-buff-the-seawreaths-sanity-drain/#findComment-1548328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 3 hours ago, HowlVoid said: To be fair, it's daperness that wards off insanity by strengthening the characters confidence (I'm assuming). The moons influence is something else entirely. Also to be fair, you can currently just eat the gross food to yucky the evil moon away. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138253-suggestion-buff-the-seawreaths-sanity-drain/#findComment-1548377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juny Pear Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 I mean if we had more hats to drain sanity for the lunar areas one could view the seawreath as the garland of them. Currently we only really have two hats that really do that like how dapperness would for raising sanity, the seawreath and the milkmade hat. They just both don't drain quite enough sanity to be too useful for getting out of enlightenment. Staying out of it though is something the hats are more capable of, but even then there's plenty of positive sanity auras. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138253-suggestion-buff-the-seawreaths-sanity-drain/#findComment-1548432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiliano Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Yes, the math doesn't add up! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138253-suggestion-buff-the-seawreaths-sanity-drain/#findComment-1548440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowlVoid Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 17 hours ago, Cheggf said: Also to be fair, you can currently just eat the gross food to yucky the evil moon away. To be fair x2, eating fresh warm pink poop from a giant bug can cause overwhelming mental trauma. Subjective oneself to mental and emotional pain can make it hard to hear the whispers of the moon. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138253-suggestion-buff-the-seawreaths-sanity-drain/#findComment-1548633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terra B Welch Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 3 hours ago, HowlVoid said: To be fair x2, eating fresh warm pink poop from a giant bug can cause overwhelming mental trauma. Subjective oneself to mental and emotional pain can make it hard to hear the whispers of the moon. to be fair, glommer buddy is confused as to why you eat his poop. I don't think it'd be that bad of an idea to either make the seawreath cheaper, or buff its sanity drain. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138253-suggestion-buff-the-seawreaths-sanity-drain/#findComment-1548752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowlVoid Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/15/2022 at 3:17 PM, Terra B Welch said: to be fair, glommer buddy is confused as to why you eat his poop. I don't think it'd be that bad of an idea to either make the seawreath cheaper, or buff its sanity drain. To be fair x3, I'm a Wormwood main so poop IS on the menu. I don't think the problem is the seawreath itself but how niche the act of dropping sanity passively is (vs instant). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138253-suggestion-buff-the-seawreaths-sanity-drain/#findComment-1549278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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