00petar00 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, prettynuggets said: less than 500 day megabase? Nice assumption, maybe there are players that just don't want to have the game be easier or is that so hard to grasp? Do you think it is smart to megabase on a public server and complain when griefers try to destroy your resources that don't regenerate? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137215-should-plant-resources-be-multiplicative-like-stonefruit-bushes/page/2/#findComment-1536611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mima_ Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, 00petar00 said: Nice assumption, u said it yourself dude haha On 1/23/2022 at 3:42 AM, 00petar00 said: i don't plan to play for 500+ days Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137215-should-plant-resources-be-multiplicative-like-stonefruit-bushes/page/2/#findComment-1536612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
00petar00 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, prettynuggets said: u said it yourself dude haha Completely out of context, obviously i don't megabase or play longer than 500 days on every world. Anyway im done here, no point in replying to you any more when you bring nothing to current conversation. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137215-should-plant-resources-be-multiplicative-like-stonefruit-bushes/page/2/#findComment-1536613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mima_ Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, 00petar00 said: ayers that just don't want to have the game be easier or is that so hard to grasp? there is also player that want resources to decorating purposes or is that so hard to grasp? . the game is already so easy late game . i literally spamming meaty stew on my late game. cus i have no use for stone fruit and berry as wanda anyway . Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137215-should-plant-resources-be-multiplicative-like-stonefruit-bushes/page/2/#findComment-1536614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
00petar00 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, prettynuggets said: there is also player that want resources to decorating purposes or is that so hard to grasp? . the game is already so easy late game . i literally spamming meaty stew on my late game. cus i have no use for stone fruit and berry as wanda anyway . How are resources hard to gather in late game? Do you understand how lureplant works and how you can have stacks of twigs/grass/stone fruit bushes/reeds/lichen depending on how many you plant just by visiting once an area every few days. You don't need Wickerbottom at all for this by the way. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137215-should-plant-resources-be-multiplicative-like-stonefruit-bushes/page/2/#findComment-1536615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mima_ Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, 00petar00 said: How are resources hard to gather in late game? Do you understand how lureplant works and how you can have literal stacks of twigs/grass/stone fruit bushes depending on how many you plant just by visiting once an area every few days. kekw who said about resource gathering . dude... we fully aware how lureplant twig grass reed farm works . we talk about DECORATIVE PURPOSES . where we already fully find everything is easy . all bosses killed multiple times . and the purpose is to make a big dope bases ... we have wurt structure to be placed anywhere in the world but cant have reeds and that spiky tree to make the vibe .. that why all those people saying they maybe want a seed. or traveling npc etc to get more stuff to decorated their base with .. not because they need more berry cus they cant make meatball Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137215-should-plant-resources-be-multiplicative-like-stonefruit-bushes/page/2/#findComment-1536616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 19 minutes ago, 00petar00 said: the game be easier lmao Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137215-should-plant-resources-be-multiplicative-like-stonefruit-bushes/page/2/#findComment-1536617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
00petar00 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, prettynuggets said: kekw who said about resource gathering . dude... we fully aware how lureplant twig grass reed farm works . we talk about DECORATIVE PURPOSES . where we already fully find everything is easy . all bosses killed multiple times . and the purpose is to make a big dope bases ... we have wurt structure to be placed anywhere in the world but cant have reeds and that spiky tree to make the vibe .. that why all those people saying they maybe want a seed. or traveling npc etc to get more stuff to decorated their base with .. not because they need more berry cus they cant make meatball Some changes like that would completely change how we play the game and it is not purely for decorative purposes if i can just ignore wildfires and if all resources in the game become renewable. There are also people that are saying that they want to be able to recover resources that are not renewable. As i said earlier this would be fine if it was added to endless. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137215-should-plant-resources-be-multiplicative-like-stonefruit-bushes/page/2/#findComment-1536618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 how can someone say that we can ignore wildfires just because we can get certain things back after many hours of work???? is mind blowing Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137215-should-plant-resources-be-multiplicative-like-stonefruit-bushes/page/2/#findComment-1536619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mima_ Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, 00petar00 said: Some changes like that would completely change how we play the game and it is not purely for decorative purposes if i can just ignore wildfires and if all resources in the game become renewable. There are also people that are saying that they want to be able to recover resources that are not renewable. As i said earlier this would be fine if it was added to endless. kekw i replying cus the contradiction on the last two post i saw you posted . thats sound funny . i tried to be sarcastic but hell youforgot the word you said yourself you also cry running around the circle "how easy to gather resources" in 4 reply . but all people here making statement how they want stuff for decorating purposes not because they dont know how to farm .LMAO. guys i have an idea ... maybe the travelling npc should come and sell us the seed after 1k days passed? so the 500 less day regen player can still have their game harder .. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137215-should-plant-resources-be-multiplicative-like-stonefruit-bushes/page/2/#findComment-1536620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, prettynuggets said: you also cry running around the circle "how easy to gather resources" in 4 reply . but all people here making statement how they want stuff for decorating purposes not because they dont know how to farm cognitive dissonance xD Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137215-should-plant-resources-be-multiplicative-like-stonefruit-bushes/page/2/#findComment-1536621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
00petar00 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, prettynuggets said: kekw i replying cus the contradiction on the last two post i saw you posted . thats sound funny . i tried to be sarcastic but hell youforgot the word you said yourself you also cry running around the circle "how easy to gather resources" in 4 reply . but all people here making statement how they want stuff for decorating purposes not because they dont know how to farm .LMAO. guys i have an idea ... maybe the travelling npc should come and sell us the seed after 1k days passed? so the 500 less day regen player can still have their game harder .. There's really no contradiction in my posts, these are all valid points. Gathering resources is a big part of the game and given enough time i can have hundreds of stone fruit sproutings easily. This makes farming it easier since i don't have to fertilize. The problem is that some resources shouldn't be renewable and it makes you play more careful, during spring in swamp from lightning strikes or in summer from wildfires. Bosses killing my last beefalo herd should make them extinct. If i have a reed trap in my world and it burns down because i made a mistake, i shouldn't be able to recover it in 500-1000 days or any random number or just getting a seed from other reeds. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137215-should-plant-resources-be-multiplicative-like-stonefruit-bushes/page/2/#findComment-1536622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mima_ Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137215-should-plant-resources-be-multiplicative-like-stonefruit-bushes/page/2/#findComment-1536623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 8 hours ago, grumm9690 said: also ruins because nightmare cycle What does the nightmare cycle affect in the ruins that it doesn't affect anywhere else? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137215-should-plant-resources-be-multiplicative-like-stonefruit-bushes/page/2/#findComment-1536646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cheggf said: What does the nightmare cycle affect in the ruins that it doesn't affect anywhere else? there is only nightmere cycle in certain biomes. The biomes affected start arround the lichen biomes, you can notice it because the colour filter changes Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137215-should-plant-resources-be-multiplicative-like-stonefruit-bushes/page/2/#findComment-1536647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MondayNight Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 hour ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: there is only nightmere cycle in certain biomes. The biomes affected start arround the lichen biomes, you can notice it because the colour filter changes There are also fissures affected by Nightmare Cycle in Guano plus Stalagmite biomes, and there are no visual indicators there, biome-wise, aside 2 degrees of openness for respective fissures. And yes, I haven't read all above comments to understand the relevancy of Nightmare Cycle in relation to World Regrowth or if any at all, eh. As for topic at hand, sure, all plants generating a <0.x-1% chance for some form of seedlings sounds ok in theory. Have no clue if in practice would matter and in what capacity. Still I doubt any world out there faces such an issue from player's side (and negligence - that widespread to boost further - was a punished aspect in DS; I reckon perhaps peeps nowadays don't fancy such concept in a Survival game, right?!). Regarding griefers, I believe some of you wanting resource regen in general wrote in past stuff along the lines of "game shouldn't be balanced around griefers actions" - so which is it?! Plus if a pub goes broadly in bad degrees of griefing you need seedlings for Saplings or Berry Bushes.. maybe change server, since is not worth playing it anymore in dire circumstances because of trolls?! And, once again, for people facing plants destruction on personal worlds because negligence.. hmm - perchance learn to play better?!? I know, shunned concept. Anyway, I for one am ok with very-very low chance of seedlings growing plants that don't need fertilization at all. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137215-should-plant-resources-be-multiplicative-like-stonefruit-bushes/page/2/#findComment-1536658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornete Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 22 hours ago, Cheggf said: Do biomes even exist? Obviously they exist as a part of world generation but does the game actually differentiate between them as you're playing? This is something I've thought about a lot and I like to look at it this way, I like to think there's two ""biome mechanics". Most things in the game will rely on just turf, so birds will land on their respective turfs, ambient sounds play on different turf, and etc there's a lot more cases like that. But the game also has something called nodes which is basically the data of the "biome" that was originally generated there upon the creation of the world. There's sandstorm tagged nodes, lunacy taged, ruins tagged nodes for the oasis desert, lunar island, and the ruins. Nodes aren't often used to differentiate biomes but they sometimes are, they were used for the kitcoon spawning in YotCC quite recently. So even if you completely transformed say, a marsh biome into something else, the marsh kitcoon will still spawn in that area since it's dependant on nodes and not turf and the game knows that area originally generated as a marsh biome. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137215-should-plant-resources-be-multiplicative-like-stonefruit-bushes/page/2/#findComment-1536664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glazmikyo Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 This would be totally great, added it makes the world more renewable. Ah berry bush seeds just make it take a whole season to grow, and I don't know if it would be that great but could the berry bush have flowers letting you know it will come back soon. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137215-should-plant-resources-be-multiplicative-like-stonefruit-bushes/page/2/#findComment-1541794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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