ATM Reaper Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Does anyone else suffer with the conveyor rail thermo sensor glitching at a set temperature then not updating until it is toggled? Im hoping it is not just me but this happens to all of my thermo sensors so must be a bug surely? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/136101-conveyor-rail-thermo-sensor-issue/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRup Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 9 hours ago, ATM Reaper said: Does anyone else suffer with the conveyor rail thermo sensor glitching at a set temperature then not updating until it is toggled? Im hoping it is not just me but this happens to all of my thermo sensors so must be a bug surely? Thermo sensors tend to stay on their last known status. So if there's nothing to trigger a change they won't do anything new. Now... if you place any kind of sensor right on top of the exit end of a bridge then that will indeed cause issues. Of course, a screenshot will help us better see what is haunting your thermo sensor. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/136101-conveyor-rail-thermo-sensor-issue/#findComment-1522671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATM Reaper Posted December 14, 2021 Author Share Posted December 14, 2021 12 hours ago, JRup said: Thermo sensors tend to stay on their last known status. So if there's nothing to trigger a change they won't do anything new. Now... if you place any kind of sensor right on top of the exit end of a bridge then that will indeed cause issues. Of course, a screenshot will help us better see what is haunting your thermo sensor. To be honest that may be the issue, the thermo sensor is right beside the conveyor rail cut off so Ill try extending that and see if it sorts it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/136101-conveyor-rail-thermo-sensor-issue/#findComment-1522929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATM Reaper Posted December 14, 2021 Author Share Posted December 14, 2021 See pic for my revised setup, the thermo sensor was immediately under the conveyor shutoff originally, just waiting to see if I get the same issue of the sensor glitching. Ok here we go, so as you can see the thermo sensor is reading 572.1 and the conveyor in that tile is showing as empty when in fact it has some copper ore in it. The sensor will now not update until I toggle the sensor from below to above and then back again. And another one, as you can see Ive cursored over the sensor, the conveyor rail is showing as being empty when it is not so the rail is now stalled until I intervene. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/136101-conveyor-rail-thermo-sensor-issue/#findComment-1523035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orzelek Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Is the rail moving? If rail is not moving then sensor won't help you. And sensor needs to be directly before shutoff to route proper packet out. You need to create a rail loop using bridge to loop it around and insert copper ore with another bridge into that loop. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/136101-conveyor-rail-thermo-sensor-issue/#findComment-1523071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATM Reaper Posted December 14, 2021 Author Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Orzelek said: Is the rail moving? If rail is not moving then sensor won't help you. And sensor needs to be directly before shutoff to route proper packet out. You need to create a rail loop using bridge to loop it around and insert copper ore with another bridge into that loop. No the rail stops when it is above temp. Then it should start again once below. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/136101-conveyor-rail-thermo-sensor-issue/#findComment-1523119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Orzelek said: Is the rail moving? of-course its not moving, he automation goes directly to the rail shutdown Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/136101-conveyor-rail-thermo-sensor-issue/#findComment-1523128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackMaggie Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, ATM Reaper said: No the rail stops when it is above temp. Then it should start again once below. Yes it going to stop but, The piece of ore that you monitoring is already went pass the sensor there's no way it gonna detect that one, You have to loop it to monitor it again. And you have a gap between shutoff and sensor so even if it work it's not accurate. What you want is something like this 1. Create a loop but leaving one tile for a bridge(Orange) to create a complete loop (Red line). 2. Put a shutoff wherever you want on rail place a sensor next to it and it must follow direction of your loop. (Blue circle) 3. Place a bride for an input resource. (Green circle) You can use it as a model for gas or liquid as well. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/136101-conveyor-rail-thermo-sensor-issue/#findComment-1523188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRup Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 There is something that needs pointing out. If for some reason that has not been addressed or planned for, the contents of the conveyor rail change state, (from solid to liquid, for example) then what's left on the conveyor rail is an empty basket (packet). The reading from the game in OP's screenshot needs to be taken as correct. The rail is empty and there is an empty basket clogging up the works: Empty baskets don't interact with thermo sensors, ever. Now, how to get rid of empty baskets? Bridges are the natural enemy of empty shipments. Use a loop like SackMaggie's suggested above to drive them to a bridge. It will be taken care of by using the game's internal mechanics at that point. There is another problem that can happen with thermo sensors that can be seen more often than not in conveyor rails and this also has to do with another internal mechanic of the game: Thermal conductivity for any amount under 1 gram is non-existent. This means that in the unfortunate event that such amount is sent by the conveyor loader then it will not change temperature and will eventually clog up any rail that has a thermo sensor as a condition to exit. A timer sensor to toggle the conveyor loader can help avoid this scenario altogether. (This also saves power...) Hope this helps. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/136101-conveyor-rail-thermo-sensor-issue/#findComment-1523487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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