(Hot) steam vent tamer.

[spike4597]

I need a steam vent tamer that takes less than 3T of steel, and no space materials, that is easy to set up.

I would like a picture and a guide on how to build, please and thank you.

also needs to output water at <70C

[JRup]

Here's one from Tony Advanced. It requires a little extra work setting up the bypass pumps and gets the job done pretty nicely. This makes the overpressure issue a thing of least concern.

Outputting water anything below 95º C would require additional cooling...

 

[spike4597]

1 minute ago, JRup said:

 

Outputting water anything below 95º C would require additional cooling...

 

i just want the water <70C for electrolyzing purposes, as to not scald my base.

[JRup]

Just now, spike4597 said:

i just want the water <70C for electrolyzing purposes, as to not scald my base.

It's far more practical to cool the output of the electrolyzer than to cool the water.

[spike4597]

2 minutes ago, JRup said:

It's far more practical to cool the output of the electrolyzer than to cool the water.

okay thank you.

but couldn't you just make a simple steam box with three aquatuners and some steam turbines? you could run each packet through two of them twice, and you could use the final one for a cooling loop.

edit: i realized that if u cool the water below 70C, it will still output hotO2

[JRup]

5 minutes ago, spike4597 said:

but couldn't you just make a simple steam box with three aquatuners and some steam turbines?

This would already go above your specified 3T limit for steel. (Each AT gobbles up 1200 kg so there's that... Them boys heavy!)

You do need to have an idea of how much the output is before building. Just an idea there.

10 minutes ago, spike4597 said:

if u cool the water below 70C, it will still output hotO2

This is the minimum output temp for electrolyzers, indeed.

You'd have more than enough cooling to spare by cooling the resulting oxygen. (I should know, my base's living area and the gas generation is cooled by a single ST/AT setup. This does not have a hot steam vent, though.)

[spike4597]

okay. overall, thank you very much.

[gabberworld]

it still matter tho how you build you setup, even if it have output 70c as minimum, with same water input  you could also cool down oxygen

lets say when you have water input 0c and you build radiant pipe loop with aluminum at inside room you could get oxygen output 10-13c . that again depends how you build

Thermium would be even better but you say no space material

[Gurgel]

3 hours ago, JRup said:

It's far more practical to cool the output of the electrolyzer than to cool the water.

Actually, it is far more practical to cool the water. What cooling the output is, is more efficient, that is something different.

Cooling the water makes for a dead-simple cooling of the electrolyzer output (no-energy hydrogen capture above):

[JRup]

2 minutes ago, Gurgel said:

Actually, it is far more practical to cool the water. What cooling the output is, is more efficient, that is something different.

Cooling the water makes for a dead-simple cooling of the electrolyzer output (no-energy hydrogen capture above):

Ah, I see you're into free range, grass fed, organic electrolyzers. That's also good!

I'm still angry at myself for not saving an open "SPOM" design that included cooling with a thermo regulator which in turn had its heat taken care of by the hydrogen generator that powered the thing (IIRC...). Internet has gobbled it up and I can't find it anymore.

[Gurgel]

8 hours ago, JRup said:

Ah, I see you're into free range, grass fed, organic electrolyzers. That's also good!

I'm still angry at myself for not saving an open "SPOM" design that included cooling with a thermo regulator which in turn had its heat taken care of by the hydrogen generator that powered the thing (IIRC...). Internet has gobbled it up and I can't find it anymore.

Thanks. Works very well, IMO. The trick is to capture the hydrogen efficiently. 

BTW, here is what I use to capture the hydrogen. Also works for CO2 at the base-bottom, is surprisingly effective and only needs electricity if you want to get the Hydrogen out again.

Left part is just a door-pump. Right-part detects non-Hydrogen in the input channel and closed the 4th door for 100s if there is any. There is basically no Hydrogen accumulation below the lower tile of the capturer.

If you go the SPOM path, you are of course correct that cooling the output gas is better than cooling the water. But at that time you are pumping all the gas and burn the Hydrogen. I am not burning the Hydrogen and only pumping the Oxygen for suits. Not saying one or the other way is superior, just that there are both possibilities and with my usual approach cooling the water is way more practical.

[NewWorldDan]

For a hot steam vent, I like the butterfly design.  depending on the output, 1-2 turbines over the middle, and 2 side tanks each with 1 turbine.  Put an aquatuner in one of the side tanks to cool the steam turbines.  Pump everything to a vaccuum.  Go wall to wall temp shift plates in the middle chamber at a height of 2-3 tiles.  Ideally, use diamond, aluminum, or cobalt for these.  Vertical walls to separate the 3 chambers made out of aluminum, diamond, or cobalt.  High thermal conductivity is the best. 

Automation: Use an atmo sensor to activate the middle turbines when over 500g (that keeps some gas in the middle to transfer heat side to side).  Use a thermo sensor and smart battery to activate the turbines over the side chambers.  I usually set it for 200C.  

Startup: Use the output of the vent to fill the side chambers.  I aim for about 850kg/tile.  Depending on your power needs, this may provide power during dormancy and once the side chambers are filled, the rest of the water goes into your main supply.  Use the aquatuner to cool the turbines and anything else you like.  I like this design because it's super simple and it just works.  I don't have one in my current game, but I could probably find something in an old save if you need a picture.

[KonfigSys]

here is as simple as it is - two 500C steam vents

just a turbine at the top - it can be done from any refined metal (as ST has 1000C temperature limit) and plastic

you can use any metal gas pump to create vacuum and then you can either dismantle the pump or leave it there - likely to be damaged due to high temperature but it needs only for the first step to create the vacuum). 

95C water goes to the electrolizer and 70C oxygen and hydrogen are generated. Electrolizer can be made from gold amalgam or steel.

I use mods - but you can do it without the mods.

Just a seal door to the steam room - a water/oil hydrolock can be used, then the room will be sealed anyway.

You may need extra ST/AT to keep the turbines below 95C. Just put a pipe from the AT through the turbines to keep them cold (you can use polluted water in the pipes).

 

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[NewWorldDan]

Here's my basic hot steam setup.  In this example, it puts out too much steam for 1 turbine to handle.  The side chamber is 800kg/tile steam.  There's petroleum in the bottom of the main chamber just for temperature stability, completely optional.  Normally I would butterfly the design, but there just isn't much space available on my current map.  With the aquatuner and radiant pipes, output temp is about 70C.  Provides steady power for most of the dormancy period.  A larger side chamber would provide power for a longer period of time.  This about as simple as it gets while still maximizing your power output.

 

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