Add new building for making vacuum

[goatt]

This is a life of quality suggestion, since vacuum is not hard to make. But it is an exhausting repetitive process if the area is big.

I'm thinking if we can have steam turbine sucking out steam from a enclosed room, we should be able to have some similar building that does the same thing to other gases. It can require lots of power, but should be able to suck up large portion of gases with better efficiency.

Thinking it should also include features below

- it should be able to suck gases fast in near vacuum area. Because it's like steam turbine, which is on one side of the enclosed room (i.e. top side), near-vacuum gases will take very long time to clear out, so this particular issue should be addressed for this building to be useful at all. One suggestion is that it can search for gases directly vertically beneath it, for a very far range, then suck them very fast.

 

Optional features:

- it can rotate to reside on any side of the wall. Imagine a steam turbine that can be built on a vertical wall.

- it can have a second gas pipe output which can transport a second kg gas for fast extraction.

[Tranoze]

They already add small gas/liquid pump. Build one each 3x3 tile and they ll turn the whole area into vacum in less than 30sec.
Small pump are designed to be used in area lower than 125 g pressure, because larger than that normal gas pump is enough to over efficient mini pump.

In large area, they way to vaccum them is build LOTS of gas pump. dont just use one pump, over time, because the low pressure it can pump, the power cost by one pump is much larger than use mutiple pump.

[gabberworld]

13 hours ago, goatt said:

steam turbine that can be built on a vertical wall.

 

there is sometimes the situation where it can be usefully yes

13 hours ago, goatt said:

we should be able to have some similar building that does the same thing to other gases. It can require lots of power, but should be able to suck up large portion of gases with better efficiency.

 

we to have that if im not mistaken, its called the Vertical Wind tunnel

[goatt]

@Tranoze @gabberworld

I want something like this for quality of life when I need to vacuum out 10x10 cells or 20x20 cells to reduce late game lags. This is gonna forever and is a repetitive process. In this case, small pump will not help, and vertical wind turbine also won't do the job.

[Tranoze]

19 minutes ago, goatt said:

@Tranoze @gabberworld

I want something like this for quality of life when I need to vacuum out 10x10 cells or 20x20 cells to reduce late game lags. This is gonna forever and is a repetitive process. In this case, small pump will not help, and vertical wind turbine also won't do the job.

If you already vacuumed an area and it is now not vacuum, it your problem, not the game. Seal your vacuum area properly
As i said, build one mini pump each 3x3 area, for 10x10, you need 9~16 minipump, for 20x20, you need 36 mini pump. Because it late game, use viscogel or liquid lock to seal the area.

Trust me, in area 20x20, it took you ~5 mins to build minipump and pipe system, and 30 sec to turn the whole area into vacuum.

[gabberworld]

38 minutes ago, goatt said:

@Tranoze @gabberworld

I want something like this for quality of life when I need to vacuum out 10x10 cells or 20x20 cells to reduce late game lags. This is gonna forever and is a repetitive process. In this case, small pump will not help, and vertical wind turbine also won't do the job.

problem is not the pump but more like pipes self, maybe we need similar like vertical wind turbine is,then you self make tunnel and then pump the gases out fast

[degr]

guys, it's idea for mod, not for game itself. Sounds like - please make water tank with volume of 50 tons instead of 5, because I'm tired to build water tanks.

[goatt]

On 7/21/2021 at 8:33 AM, degr said:

guys, it's idea for mod, not for game itself. Sounds like - please make water tank with volume of 50 tons instead of 5, because I'm tired to build water tanks.

Something like this, but I just think it’s good for base game, since we already have steam turbine working in the same / similar way.

On 7/20/2021 at 9:40 PM, Tranoze said:

Trust me, in area 20x20, it took you ~5 mins to build minipump and pipe system, and 30 sec to turn the whole area into vacuum.

As I said in OP, my suggestion is QOL, as this is a repetitive process and the waiting part includes building stairs, construction and deconstruction. The keyword is QOL, not functionality.

On 7/20/2021 at 10:03 PM, gabberworld said:

problem is not the pump but more like pipes self,

I agree. Currently pump only pumps 500g. Steam turbine extract steam using liquid pipe. I was suggesting a pump with 2 gas pipes which together can output 2k gas per sec. 

[Tranoze]

1 hour ago, goatt said:

I agree. Currently pump only pumps 500g. Steam turbine extract steam using liquid pipe. I was suggesting a pump with 2 gas pipes which together can output 2k gas per sec. 

That just fast deliver, not fast vacuuming.

What should be suggested is compeletely remove mcg from oni measurement, as lower than 1 g per cube (consider 1 cube is 1m3) is enough to consider vacuum.

If you dont build multiple pump, once you get to 999 mcg and lower, it take you 10 to 100 days just to pump out the rest depend on how large the room is.

[Genry]

On 19.07.2021 at 23:05, goatt said:

Это жизнь качественного предложения, поскольку создать вакуум не сложно. Но это утомительный повторяющийся процесс, если площадь большая.

Я думаю, если у нас может быть паровая турбина, высасывающая пар из замкнутого помещения, у нас должно быть какое-то подобное здание, которое делает то же самое с другими газами. Для этого может потребоваться много энергии, но он должен всасывать большую часть газов с большей эффективностью.

Думаю, он также должен включать в себя функции ниже

- он должен быстро всасывать газы в почти вакуумной зоне. Поскольку это похоже на паровую турбину, которая находится на одной стороне закрытого помещения (то есть на верхней стороне), газы, близкие к вакууму, будут очищаться очень долго, поэтому следует решить эту конкретную проблему, чтобы это здание было вообще полезным. Одно из предположений состоит в том, что он может искать газы прямо под ним вертикально на очень большом расстоянии, а затем очень быстро их всасывать.

 

Дополнительные возможности:

- он может вращаться и располагаться на любой стороне стены. Представьте себе паровую турбину, которую можно построить на вертикальной стене.

- он может иметь второй выход для газовой трубы, по которому можно транспортировать второй килограмм газа для быстрой добычи.

I agree. A small mini pump that is built into the wall like a turbine. Every time pour a drop of liquid on the floor, put pumps, wires, pipes, then destroy it all and sweep, it is very routine and tedious. In addition, the drop can disappear if the structure is incorrectly built, since the duplicates exhale it with carbon dioxide. (I don’t remember exactly how to build it so that this would not happen, but it is very annoying). And such a pump built into the wall can pump out gas from hard-to-spread places where gas is very slowly divides and goes to the pump. Sometimes, due to 1-2 of such cells, the gas pumping increases by 3-6 times or more.

[goatt]

On 7/24/2021 at 5:38 AM, Tranoze said:

That just fast deliver, not fast vacuuming.

What should be suggested is compeletely remove mcg from oni measurement, as lower than 1 g per cube (consider 1 cube is 1m3) is enough to consider vacuum.

If you dont build multiple pump, once you get to 999 mcg and lower, it take you 10 to 100 days just to pump out the rest depend on how large the room is.

faster delivery and faster vacuuming has some overlap, they aren't that different at some phases. I made this suggestion just for QoL, and didnt intend to change game mechanic, so I don't wanna complain about it. My point is that I generally agree with you, but I don't wanna overstep and suggest something out of my comfort zone.

 

16 hours ago, Genry said:

Every time pour a drop of liquid on the floor, put pumps, wires, pipes, then destroy it all and sweep, it is very routine and tedious.

Yes Yes Yes!

[Onidotmoe]

Would be neat if the duplicants could suck up gasses like they can liquids when they get plumbing.

[Sasza22]

11 hours ago, VampireMonkey said:

Would be neat if the duplicants could suck up gasses like they can liquids when they get plumbing.

I imagine they`d use something like this.