Hatchlette Challenge

[Yunru]

So I won't be able to be on ONI for a while, so I'm delegating this to a challenge:

Using some form of critter, a single volcano of choice, and no other external inputs (other than pettings, and building materials), design a self-sufficient source of omelettes.

[ghkbrew]

If you want input free omelets, pips and wild arbor trees are the solution. You could do something more complicated with stone hatches and igneous rock from a volcano, I suppose.

Assuming you're ok with using dupe labor for grooming that is. Without grooming, the only critter that will give you more than 1 egg per life cycle are pacu. But then you have to find a renewable source of algae. (Though not much. With effort you can get 3 eggs per life cycle from a pacu for a total of 3-4 kg of algae)

[Yunru]

33 minutes ago, ghkbrew said:

Without grooming, the only critter that will give you more than 1 egg per life cycle are pacu.

Tame Hatches can go without grooming as long as they spend the majority of their time buried (such as inside airlock doors).

[ghkbrew]

2 minutes ago, Yunru said:

Tame Hatches can go without grooming as long as they spend the majority of their time buried

I know they don't get confined, cramped or overcrowded when buried, but I thought they still needed to be groomed to be happy.

[Yunru]

Just now, ghkbrew said:

I know they don't get confined, cramped or overcrowded when buried, but I thought they still needed to be groomed to be happy.

They get a +1 happiness boost when buried.

AFAIK, they're the only critter to possess such a buff.

[ghkbrew]

1 minute ago, Yunru said:

They get a +1 happiness boost when buried.

AFAIK, they're the only critter to possess such a buff.

Interesting. I'll have to play around with that.

[ghkbrew]

6 hours ago, Yunru said:

They get a +1 happiness boost when buried.

AFAIK, they're the only critter to possess such a buff.

I'm not seeing any happiness boost.  This tame, ungroomed hatch is reproducing at 1/60 cycles still.

[Yunru]

I will have to investigate, my workings were long ago, in a time before cloud saves, on a machine long lost to time. 

 

EDIT: A theory I have developed is that tame hatches would reproduce exactly once without grooming, making it great for meat, but not so for eggs.

[DemainaNyx]

Going all in on this, I assume you mean the one geyser handles everything from food generation for the hatches to cooking the egg to omelette to powering all the stuff needed to run this operation.  Also going to ignore the input of dupe petting the hatches as it's kinda necessary.  Also assuming I'm allowed to build other pieces of equipment from materials not provided by the volcano, otherwise I don't know if that's even possible.

 

Volcano: I would think that stone hatches and volcanos is the way to go, but I suppose it depends on how active your volcano is and if you're allowed to store up the magma ahead of time for this experiment or if it must be designed first and then the magma is generated after that point.  I don't know exact numbers but I feel like 1 volcano should be able to satisfy a few stone hatches, probably not a full stable though.  The heat from the magma could be siphoned off first to steam to generate power to run any sweeper arms in said hatch ranch and also be used to cook the eggs into omelettes automatically via a storage bin or converyor receptacle in a hot room with a sweeper required to grab the omelettes.  Depending on how you designed the setup, could possibly have one sweeper diagonally reach into the hot room for your omelettes and sweep up your stable at the same time to save on power

Salt Water Geyser: The salt water is sent to a desalinator and converts it into water and salt.  The salt can be placed in a rock crusher and and turned into sand and table salt.  The sand can be fed to a hatch or a sage hatch.  Might need the coal to help power everything as we'd need a few rock crusher going to produce enough sand for hatches and to run the desalinator.  The salt water is hot enough to cook the eggs itself so just add a storage bin and you're done.

Chlorine Vent: I don't think the math works for this one, but you could use chlorine to feed dasha salt vines.  If domestic, it requires sand to fertilizer them which reduces the amount of extra sand we get after crushing the salt.  If we use wild though, it's more of a pain to get it started.  Again, break the salt down into table salt and sand to feed your hatches.  Need to cool down the chlorine a bit before it reaches the plants which gets a little harder.  We do have the coal from hatches to provide power though so might be possible.  Could try to use the sand to soak up heat before feeding it to the hatches, but I doubt that would work well.

 

Obviously this doesn't work because it requires a little outside input, but it's interesting.

Hot Polluted Oxygen Vent: Use regolith and deodorizers to generate clay to feed to hatches.  Again, the quantity of hatches depends on how active your vent is.  Using a steam turbine you could collect the heat from the polluted oxygen to run the sweeper gathering the regolith (have automated doors chew up regolith and push it to the sweeper), also run the sweeper feeding regolith to the deodorizers and gathering up the clay, also run the sweeper gathering the omelettes from the hot room, and also run the sweeper in the ranch.  Clever designing could reduce this like using a door covervoy system to chew up the regolith and deliver it down a long shaft that lands directly in the clay chamber.

Alternatively, you could use pufts to convert the polluted oxygen into slime and feed the slime to sage hatches.  More rancher input needed to pet pufts but it would be completely self contained.  Probably not consistent or constant, but it would work.

 

Time to get more convoluted because why not.

Polluted Water Vent or Cool Slush Geyser: Polluted water is spread out over a large area which increase the chance of it to produces some polluted oxygen.  The polluted oxygen can either be converted to slime via pufts or converted into clay via regolith that is cooled initially via a steam turbine for power.  Clay can be fed to hatches.  Input of rancher time or regolith

Some polluted water is then sieved with cooled regolith producing clean water and polluted dirt.  Polluted dirt can either be ideally composted or fed to sage hatches or cooked into dirt.  Input of regolith and dupe time.

Some polluted water is sent to pincha pepper plants in small doses so as to not freeze the plants. Cooled regolith is run past the plants to keep them warm before it is sent to deodorizers/sieve.  Additionally, some water is sent to bristle blossoms.  These plants feed some dreckos/glossy dreckos to produce phosphorite (and more eggs).  Input of rancher time.

Some polluted water is fed to a fertilizer synthesizer along with the dirt and phosphorite.  Fertilizer can be fed to sage hatches.

Nat Gas from the fertilizer synthesizer is used to help power stuff used in this contraption.  Carbon dioxide can be scrubbed into polluted water (using some water sieved earlier) and the polluted water produced by both can be recycled into the original tank.

Some water is sent to an electrolyzer to produce hydrogen and oxygen.  The hydrogen could be used to help power everything in this as well.

Unlikely, but if there is a surplus of dirt, it can be fed to hatches.

Additionally, if there is a surplus of phosphorite, it can be fed to shine bugs for more eggs.  Input of rancher time.

Depending on your quantity of shine bugs, you can use solar panels to get more power to help power this thing.

With this whole chain, I have absolutely no clue how many things we could feed or if it's self powering at all, but it's a fun thought experiment.  Obviously this requires a bit of power and phosphorite to get started, but I think it might average out over time into something that might maintain itself.  I didn't even account for the coal from the hatches, so it might be good and you get a ton of oxygen as well. 

We could try to make it self contained by using pokeshells to generate sand instead of using regolith, but I'm unsure if we have enough to do that.  I haven't played around with pokeshells enough to know how much food they need or how much they produce.  If any of the plants actually produce food, we could even send that to the polluted oxygen area to speed up rotting and then send the rot piles to the pokeshells for sand.  If there is enough, you could possibly get a glossy drecko to feed on the bristles to get the phosphorite needed to grow the pincha peppers, thus making this completely self contained.  Or we could use some of the initial dirt to grow some mealwood to get the first phosphorite.  We can't make fertilizer without both components anyway so better to use the dirt than let it sit there.

Using the pokeshells though we might be short on power or at least require an initial input of power to get the system started.  If this is coal positive, then it's a self contained system, so you could argue that an initial input of coal is acceptable to start the system.  Don't know if that's acceptable to the OP, but it's one way to look at it.

[babba]

This sounds like an interesting challenge. Omelettes are very nice - I hope one day that coffee flavored beef steaks are available in the game. I will now hover board in to my kitchen and start the omelette production right away on my portable volcano.