Xarethsar Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 so i just made my 1st petroleum boiler and well its not performing as well as id like it. in the save file its working steady at 5kg/s at best i got it to 8kg/s but i would like it to be at 10kg/s but i would be fine with 9kg/s. i have no volcano or magma biome so its an alectric one. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XXpxrDZRknqJC7Ls0iSfaZIlh_QJXwsR/view?usp=sharing Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/119340-need-help-making-my-petroleum-boiler-work/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheaker Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 I am sorry. This is not a direct solution but You may upgrade it per Your needs. In this sandbox scenario I was using magma heat but as per my rough calculation You could use one auqatuner with supercoolant loop to create enough heat and what more important, to remove some heat of petroleum. It is providing constant 10kg/s. This particular setup it is working without any issues. Radiant pipes are made of thermium. Regular pipes are made of granite and insulated pipes and tiles are made of insulation but i think You can use other materials. Tiles from mafin rock and ceramic pipes should do the work too. I don't remember thermo sensor value and the design is already destroyed. It was around 430 I believe. I think temshift plates were made of diamond, side meta tiles made of gold and two metal tiles below tempshift plates made of thermium. The liquid chamber with thermo sensor is full of liquid lead due to high density and thus heat capacity (8000kg/tile). Hope this helps somehow. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/119340-need-help-making-my-petroleum-boiler-work/#findComment-1346107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xarethsar Posted June 21, 2020 Author Share Posted June 21, 2020 ya am think i know my problem i have co2 in the aquatunner chamber gonna replace it with steam should conduct heat better am missing just a tiny bit so who knows!!! and ya its not a direct solotion but i can look into it thx. posted a screen of mine Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/119340-need-help-making-my-petroleum-boiler-work/#findComment-1346109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheaker Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Put aquatuner in liquid. They are working while merged in liquids. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/119340-need-help-making-my-petroleum-boiler-work/#findComment-1346121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xarethsar Posted June 21, 2020 Author Share Posted June 21, 2020 ya am rebuilding the boiler. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/119340-need-help-making-my-petroleum-boiler-work/#findComment-1346122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 After a number of failed attempts, I am currently trying a tower-like design. Heat source for this is an aquatuner with super-coolant (about 1000kDTU/sec), but any other could work. The real challenge is the counter-flow heat exchanger. It should both minimize energy usage and deliver an output flow close to the input flow in temperature. I found that petroleum/crude oil thermal conductivity is too high for achieving that in the designs I tried. Now I am trying with insulated pools. This can probably be done with fewer of them, this is the first prototype. Measuring liquid level at the bottom tank and cutting it off at the top will give you an excess of about 100kg/level at 10kg/s input flow. Not really an issue or I would have put in doors. And first update: At 10kg/s and 90C input, the output temperature is about 120C. So it is ok, but would benefit from more levels. I think I will rebuild it a bit more compact vertically and try for 25 levels. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/119340-need-help-making-my-petroleum-boiler-work/#findComment-1346129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Mandor Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 On 6/21/2020 at 3:08 PM, Gurgel said: And first update: At 10kg/s and 90C input, the output temperature is about 120C. So it is ok, but would benefit from more levels. I think I will rebuild it a bit more compact vertically and try for 25 levels. As far as I can see, your tower have just 17 units of heat exchange. because ton's of oil equalize temperature on each step. Entire width of this construction became meaningless. You can split this basins into sections, and there will be more units of heat exchange. Also, if you pump hot petroleum, and let cold oil to free flow, this means you have thermium. If you have thermium, just two thermium tubes (oil one way, petroleum another way) through diamond blocks will be much more compact. Usually free flow converters allow petroleum to flow, and put oil in pipes, because this allow to use steel pumps for petroleum Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/119340-need-help-making-my-petroleum-boiler-work/#findComment-1346514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Prince Mandor said: As far as I can see, your tower have just 17 units of heat exchange. because ton's of oil equalize temperature on each step. Entire width of this construction became meaningless. You can split this basins into sections, and there will be more units of heat exchange. Nope. The width does actually increase thermal transfer significantly. 2 hours ago, Prince Mandor said: Also, if you pump hot petroleum, and let cold oil to free flow, this means you have thermium. If you have thermium, just two thermium tubes (oil one way, petroleum another way) through diamond blocks will be much more compact. Nope. Gets less heat transfer. And requires exotic materials. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/119340-need-help-making-my-petroleum-boiler-work/#findComment-1346558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 5 hours ago, Prince Mandor said: Also, if you pump hot petroleum, and let cold oil to free flow, this means you have thermium. If you have thermium, just two thermium tubes (oil one way, petroleum another way) through diamond blocks will be much more compact. No; if you did that then your oil would only get half way hot, and the petrol only half way cool and they would both reach the same temperature in the middle. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/119340-need-help-making-my-petroleum-boiler-work/#findComment-1346618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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