suxkar Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 To my understanding, wild critters reproduction rate is unaffected by any defuff, correct? Does this apply to "confined" as well? I was trying to find a way to exploit wild pokeshells, i wanted to find a space efficient way to "store" them, so that I need few sweepers. I've been putting them into 2x4 rooms, multiple ones since a critter drop off allows up to 20 critters. I was expecting "overcrowded" and/or "cramped", but not "confined", so far i've only seen in in critters trapped in 1x1 rooms or inside tiles/doors. Can anyone explain how this works to me in detail? Does anyone have a better way to "store" pokeshells? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suxkar Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 Really? Nobody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureJohny Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 AFIK, overcrowded affects wild critters too. Since currently no ground based critters can walk on ladders, I “ranch” wild ones, by placing them on small unattached platform in some large open area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dextrome Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Each critter has differrent values for being cramped / overcrowded (I don't know the exact numbers) based on the size of the room and the number of critters in the room Afaik only shove voles don't get cramped But you could use liquid airlocks instead of doors (or some other way to keep your critters from escaping) in order to circumvent the room size 19 hours ago, suxkar said: Does anyone have a better way to "store" pokeshells? After you reached your 20 critter limit, just remove the door from your room, and leave a 1 tile gap so the pokeshells can't escape. That's how I do it. (I keep 'em in my water sieve "room" so they can eat the polluted dirt) If you want to wrangle even more poke shells you can make a room right next to it, wrangle to there and then remove that door too Just gotta make sure the room size is big enough for the number of critters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbellamy Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Dextrome said: Each critter has differrent values for being cramped / overcrowded (I don't know the exact numbers) based on the size of the room and the number of critters in the room Critter Required Space Max Critters in Max Size Stable Shine Bugs 12 8 Pufts 16 6 Hatches 12 8 Slicksters 12 8 Dreckos 12 8 Pips 12 8 Pokeshells 12 8 Pacus 8 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suxkar Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 Yes, it should be 12 tiles for every critter exepct pufts, which require 16, but my question is: do these debuffs apply to wild critters? I think I read somewhere that they do not but I can't seem to find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzgzd Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, suxkar said: Yes, it should be 12 tiles for every critter exepct pufts, which require 16, but my question is: do these debuffs apply to wild critters? I think I read somewhere that they do not but I can't seem to find it. They do apply. I tested it on shine bugs. Cramped or confined means zero reproduction wild or tamed no difference. Overcrowded has no effect on reproduction, same as with tamed. Happy wild reproduction is same as Glum Tamed - one egg at 75% adulthood. Cycle 54 - eggs Spoiler Cycle 54 - new born Spoiler Cycle 74 (15 = 0.75*20 cycles later as they reproduce 6.6666%) Spoiler Those 2 overcrowded wild where spawned at same moment so managed to drop egg but Tame overcrowded had few seconds age difference and so when first dropped egg second is remaining at almost 100% because of now cramped... --- After that I dropped in phosporite and checked consumption during those 20 cycles but I am too lazy to look at those numbers now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suxkar Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 Thank you for your unmistakable test!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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