Steam turbine - cooling benefit, & auto-cooling

[OxCD]

Hi all.

Something I want to point out.

Thinking about the fact that an aquatuner is only transfering the heat, but the steam turbine is deleting heat, I've imagined this kind of setup.
Please this note this is not a model setup. This post's goal is just to give you the main idea. Then up to you to adapt it depending on your cooling uses.

Also note that I didn't calculate anything. I'm not regular with this kind of math gymnastic, but depending of the temp & the quantity of material you aim to cool, and depending of the number of aquatuner you're using, I'm guessing you can calcutate every temperature into this setup, to be sure steam chamber will not be too hot, which could lead your aquatuner to overheat, but more over your steam turbine to spread out the heat excess, and then maybe go over the 120°C limit.

I'm guessing some mathematics juggler as @mathmanican should be able to set a spreadsheet about those temp° limit, as it does exist some, at a certain point.

Here it is :

 

Those shots are just an idea for you to conceptualize it. The same cooling effect your applying to the liquid or element at the bottom, is used to keep your turbine cooled. If you're bringing element over 120°C to be cooled, and if you're bringing it on a large amount, think about cooling the turbine before the element. But if you're bringing too much heat for a 100% timing used aquatuner, think about adding another aquatuner.

The steam then will produce more watts, but you'll consume 1200W more. So anyway it's not electrical self-sustaining, more heat to delete will cost you more watts.

This pretty ugly setup I've set is showing the big petrol basin to cool down, slowly but surely, and same for the turbine. That's logical, since I'm not bringing new heat here. But that's demonstrating that it's cooling positive.

I hope I'm bringing a new concept to some of you. The idea is to avoid any other external cooling method for the steam turbine, so mainly forget about any wheezewort here.

Have a nice day everyone !

 

[tzionut]

It is ok but i don't know why you cool the petroleum? 

I make a setup using the new steam turbine for cooling the 150 degrees natural gas vents, and 500 degrees polluted oxygen vent. I am trying to recover some of the heat that is wasted and convert it to power. The natural gas is converted in methane and stored, and the polluted oxygen cleaned and stored as lox. When i am at home i will post pictures.

[OxCD]

1 hour ago, tzionut said:

It is ok but i don't know why you cool the petroleum? 

No goal here, the point is just to highlight that the turbine can be cooled by the aquatuner output, if used together. No needs for external cooling system, like wheezewort, in this case.

[JohnFrancis]

23 minutes ago, OxCD said:

No goal here, the point is just to highlight that the turbine can be cooled by the aquatuner output, if used together.

Oh definitely, I always pair my steam turbine with an aquatuner. No need to figure out how many wheeze I need, it simplify things so much. Below is a cooler for my main base liquid tank and a cooler for a steam vent. In both instances the aquatuner is cooling the steam turbine and an Ice box of some kind.

 

 

[tzionut]

Under in spoiler 1 you have the natural gas vent whit heat recovery, and in spoiler 2 the high temp polluted oxygen vent, whit oxygen cleaner.

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The principle is simple. The vent emit 150 degree natural gas. If the temp is above 125 degrees and minim 500 gr the gas pump start. The temp shift plate move some heat to the iron metallic tiles, and the water is converted in steam. The gas pipe temp sensor release the 124 degrees natural gas. To prevent the steam turbine overheating i put the classical whezee to cool until 1 degrees. 

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The second example you have the polluted oxygen to oxygen convert chamber  I trapped one morb and the ceramic production in the left side. The pressure plate is set at 250 kg of sand.  

[OxCD]

@tzionut in your setups you're cooling the turbine with wheezeworts. That's the opposite of the point of the OP, which is cooling the turbine with its own heat deletion mechanism. Except if I misunderstand something, it seems that your setups are off-topic, no ?

[Lucaman]

11 hours ago, JohnFrancis said:

Oh definitely, I always pair my steam turbine with an aquatuner. No need to figure out how many wheeze I need, it simplify things so much. Below is a cooler for my main base liquid tank and a cooler for a steam vent. In both instances the aquatuner is cooling the steam turbine and an Ice box of some kind.

 

 

 

I woul like to see more details of these constructions: used materials, electrical cables, plumbing, automation, the amount of water to create steam, etc... Thank you

[tzionut]

@OxCD you are right is of topic from the point of view of the post. I share it for the other players if they want to use the design for there build. 

[JohnFrancis]

10 hours ago, Lucaman said:

I woul like to see more details of these constructions: used materials, electrical cables, plumbing, automation, the amount of water to create steam, etc... Thank you

The second pic I built in a lets play it covers it step by step, the first pic is still in editing. I have set the time stamp in the below video to the start of the construction project. If I leave anything out or am unclear just let me know.

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[Zorku]

On 5/6/2019 at 5:12 PM, Lucaman said:

 

I woul like to see more details of these constructions: used materials, electrical cables, plumbing, automation, the amount of water to create steam, etc... Thank you

The video is nice, but since I just skimmed it, a verbal summary: 

The icebox cooler has diamond windows and a steel door.
The thermal pipe sensor runs the aquatuner if the temp is above -1C. 
The thermal sensor in the water turns the door on for water over 25C.
The aquatuner space and the transfer space under it are full of water, so you get high density steam once you run it. The lower space serves as a battery and the water in it seems like it will freeze if you're not using it to chill anything for long enough, though this would take quite a long time, since the volume of polluted water in the pipes is quite small compared to the box, and temp transfer slows down the closer you get to equilibrium. -1 is probably more of an efficiency target.
2 diamond temp shift plates disperse heat from the aquatuner over the steam vents.
Each temp sensor gets a temp shift plate to make the output more stable.

General build tips: Get your wires set up right before your walls and water go in. 
Dupes will try to encase themselves with the aquatuner.
Drip water into the 1 tile wide space by replacing a floor with airflow tile, then build over it with insulated tiles once air bubbles are out of the way.
Bridge your coolant into the pipes before the sensor or else the aquatuner won't run.