Got The Ice Staff!

[Yello]

Just got the ice staff after the first time of the hounds coming to me. Whats the chance of it dropping?

[stormfront]

guessing by the rate of the known low droppage of red gems that the new ice gems would have a simaler drop rate I guess rare

[Yello]

guessing by the rate of the known low droppage of red gems that the new ice gems would have a simaler drop rate I guess rare

Didn't seem rare to me :/

[Kittiko]

Seems to be about the same drop rate as red gems for me. Also, Ice hounds drop teeth at a much higher rate than regular/hell hounds.

[kendogg]

Yeah because your sample size of 1 means a lot. Oh wait, it doesn't mean anything

[Kittiko]

Yeah because your sample size of 1 means a lot. Oh wait, it doesn't mean anything

Are you talking to me?

[Luna Lovecraft]

It's the same exact chance, looking at the code. 1/5 ice hounds, I think.

[stormfront]

lets not aruge clearly we need to count how many ice hounds total we have all killed and what percentage gave gemsrember just becuse your first hound dropped a gem it doesn't mean its common its all %as another DS example take krampus (hes the only monster who has a % i rember off the top of my head)his sack has a 1% drop meaning there is a 1/100 chance it will drop not that if you fight him 100 times you will get a sack the % does not increase per encounter heck you may get lucky and get it on your first try you may never get it...or another popular example take starter pokemon all starters have a 75% male ratio meaning you have only a 25% chance or 25 out of 100 games chance to get a female(pokemon its how I learned how % worked)

Edited February 27, 2013 by stormfront

[_Q_]

Looked into the file.

Red gem 0.2Blue gem 0.2

It seem like it is bigger chance cause you can kill many Ice Hounds in short time, while red hounds are quite rare.

[Luna Lovecraft]

lets not aruge clearly we need to count how many ice hounds total we have all killed and what percentage gave gemsrember just becuse your first hound dropped a gem it doesn't mean its common its all %as another DS example take krampus (hes the only monster who has a % i rember off the top of my head)his sack has a 1% drop meaning there is a 1/100 chance it will drop not that if you fight him 100 times you will get a sack the % does not increase per encounter heck you may get lucky and get it on your first try you may never get it...or another popular example take starter pokemon all starters have a 75% male ratio meaning you have only a 25% chance or 25 out of 100 games chance to get a female(pokemon its how I learned how % worked)

Actually, we don't need statistical evidence._Q_ and I both found the code, and it's a .2 or 1/5 chance of drop.

[Kittiko]

I spawned around 30 ice hounds with the testing tools mod and got about 5 gems. I know through experience without looking at the files, that's why I use the mod. xp

[Luna Lovecraft]

I spawned around 30 ice hounds with the testing tools mod and got about 5 gems. I know through experience without looking at the files, that's why I use the mod. xp

Well, the problem with that is that's hardly exact data. It's totally within reason that at a 1/12 spawn rate you get 1/6 spawns. That's just the random nature of statistics.We can just look at the files and quickly deduce exact statistical certainties.

[Kittiko]

Well, the problem with that is that's hardly exact data. It's totally within reason that at a 1/12 spawn rate you get 1/6 spawns. That's just the random nature of statistics.

Yes, but I was right.

[Luna Lovecraft]

Yes, but I was right.

5/30 = 1/6 != .2

[Kittiko]

5/30 = 1/6 != .2

I said it was about the same drop rate. I don't go by numbers and statistics. I've killed enough hounds to know about how often they drop. This felt the same. You checked the numbers and it was, in fact, the same.