Lawnmower Man Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 I assumed that the automation layer was somehow "non-physical" and didn't interact thermally with anything. Boy was I wrong! A logic gate that I had built on top of a volcano kept disappearing, and I couldn't figure out why. Then I noticed that it has a melting point of around 1000C, and my copper volcano emits Cu at 2200C. D'oh! So, word to the wise: your logic gates are bits of metal which conduct/absorb/emit heat just like everything else. Place them wisely!!! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101697-logic-gate-melted/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 LOL! Good advice. I've had that happen too. My fix was to build the logic gate out of a better metal. I think I had steel at the time. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101697-logic-gate-melted/#findComment-1142305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbudiman Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Rocket exhaust will also melt them. Steel is recommended, then tungsten once you blast off your hydrogen rockets. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101697-logic-gate-melted/#findComment-1142308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishoutofwater Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 26 minutes ago, gbudiman said: Rocket exhaust will also melt them. Steel is recommended, then tungsten once you blast off your hydrogen rockets. steel is enough if your rockets blast off in space vacuum. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101697-logic-gate-melted/#findComment-1142312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharraShimada Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 3 hours ago, fishoutofwater said: steel is enough if your rockets blast off in space vacuum. Oh boy... no its not ^^ Build a liquid hydrogen engine, and your ramp will heat up to several thousand degrees celcius over time. I managed to melt pure steel, detroy nobium-buildings and overheat thermium. Why? Becaus in a vavuum, the heat wont go away. It just sits there, waiting for the next rocket, cheering for more heat. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101697-logic-gate-melted/#findComment-1142336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishoutofwater Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 but I already checked the steam's temperatures, the hottest I got is 2054C, below steel's melt point. does it get hotter when more fuel is used? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101697-logic-gate-melted/#findComment-1142342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcus2611 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 It depends on the specific heat capacity and mass of the material getting heated up. But yeah, you have to be careful about what you build your wires and pipes out of because they can and will melt, and you'll want to figure out a way to cool down your rocket silo to stop it from overheating over time. A relatively easy setup is to run hydrogen through obsidian pipes and then into a steam turbine chamber to get rid of the excess heat, but it takes a while to cool the silo down that way. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101697-logic-gate-melted/#findComment-1142375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorsDux Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 I had tempshift plates melting when i tried to repair a volcano based meth(ane) lab. Needed a min to realize how the rocks got there. Ever since i just use diamond for tempshift plates and diamond window tiles instead of metal tiles. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101697-logic-gate-melted/#findComment-1142385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmower Man Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 11 hours ago, SharraShimada said: Oh boy... no its not ^^ Build a liquid hydrogen engine, and your ramp will heat up to several thousand degrees celcius over time. I managed to melt pure steel, detroy nobium-buildings and overheat thermium. Why? Becaus in a vavuum, the heat wont go away. It just sits there, waiting for the next rocket, cheering for more heat. Guess that's what happens when the thermal model only has conduction and convection, but no radiation, huh? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101697-logic-gate-melted/#findComment-1142463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilalaunekuh Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 41 minutes ago, Lawnmower Man said: 12 hours ago, SharraShimada said: Oh boy... no its not ^^ Build a liquid hydrogen engine, and your ramp will heat up to several thousand degrees celcius over time. I managed to melt pure steel, detroy nobium-buildings and overheat thermium. Why? Becaus in a vavuum, the heat wont go away. It just sits there, waiting for the next rocket, cheering for more heat. Guess that's what happens when the thermal model only has conduction and convection, but no radiation, huh? Just to add some usefull information: A hydrogen rocket got a temperature cap, so it doesn´t just add heat energy each launch. => 3200K is the upper limit, so tungsten is the only metal able to withstand indefinite launches (But like @MorsDux said diamonds are your friends. ) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101697-logic-gate-melted/#findComment-1142477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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