rnjacobs Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 What percentage of maps have at least one metal volcano? The last four games I've started haven't had any. And yet searching the seeds on ToolsNotIncluded, approximately 70% of maps should have at least one of some kind of metal volcano. (5633 iron + 5663 gold + 5612 copper -1651 iron&gold -1626 iron&copper -1651copper&gold +419all out of 17624 documented) Am I just horribly unlucky? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/100799-what-percentage-of-maps-have-at-least-one-metal-volcano/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONIfreak Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I think you are. For last few maps i started i always had at least one (i never saw cold slush geyser though). Why you need it? There is plenty of metal falling from space, i have gold and copper geyser on my current map and have no idea what to do with that amount of those metals. i started to build everything out of gold just for fun. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/100799-what-percentage-of-maps-have-at-least-one-metal-volcano/#findComment-1133880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftyRighty Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I've had chains of maps which were entirely over obsessed with CO2 vents and geysers before... the rng is mean sometimes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/100799-what-percentage-of-maps-have-at-least-one-metal-volcano/#findComment-1133886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolthulhu Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 There are something like 10 geysers per map, of which 3 have pre-set types (not metal). The rest is random, chosen uniformly from all possible geyser types (18). There are 3 metal geyser types, so 1/6 chance of a geyser being metal. Chance of all 10 geysers being non-metal is therefore about (5/6)^7, which is about 28%. About 28% too high to risk wasting time with random seed, only to realize the map is pure crap. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/100799-what-percentage-of-maps-have-at-least-one-metal-volcano/#findComment-1133951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnjacobs Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 9 hours ago, ONIfreak said: Why you need it? There is plenty of metal falling from space In the late game, I found myself still wanting to build (and/or rebuild) lots of infrastructure using refined metal and regularly exceeded the rate at which asteroids brought iron to the surface. In Cosmic and Expressive I played maps that had metal volcanoes and just the normal cool steam geysers for water. The maps I started for Rocketry and Space both had no metal volcanoes and lots of water generators, which was a novel twist. The two I tried to start for QoL1 had neither tons of water geysers nor metal volcanoes. So by now I've played to enough that I just find this kind of scarcity to be boring instead of challenging. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/100799-what-percentage-of-maps-have-at-least-one-metal-volcano/#findComment-1134092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miravlix Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 17 hours ago, rnjacobs said: What percentage of maps have at least one metal volcano? The last four games I've started haven't had any. And yet searching the seeds on ToolsNotIncluded, approximately 70% of maps should have at least one of some kind of metal volcano. (5633 iron + 5663 gold + 5612 copper -1651 iron&gold -1626 iron&copper -1651copper&gold +419all out of 17624 documented) Am I just horribly unlucky? I can't remember the last time my map had a volcano and I always use the default settings, so random new seed every game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/100799-what-percentage-of-maps-have-at-least-one-metal-volcano/#findComment-1134140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONIfreak Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 14 hours ago, rnjacobs said: In the late game, I found myself still wanting to build (and/or rebuild) lots of infrastructure using refined metal and regularly exceeded the rate at which asteroids brought iron to the surface. In Cosmic and Expressive I played maps that had metal volcanoes and just the normal cool steam geysers for water. The maps I started for Rocketry and Space both had no metal volcanoes and lots of water generators, which was a novel twist. The two I tried to start for QoL1 had neither tons of water geysers nor metal volcanoes. So by now I've played to enough that I just find this kind of scarcity to be boring instead of challenging. Fair enough. in case you might not know there is seed searcher: https://toolsnotincluded.net/seeds/ so if you find those maps annoying you can just choose what you want and start on that asteroid. That's what i did yesterday (i actually found it yesterday) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/100799-what-percentage-of-maps-have-at-least-one-metal-volcano/#findComment-1134366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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