Hexicube Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 This is something that just doesn't make sense, the regulator processes 1/10th of what the tuner does but uses 1/5th the power (half as efficient). Combined with the fact hydrogen has a SHC of 2.4 compared to water's 4.179 and super coolant's 8.44, and it's effectively worthless for the entire game, except for potential mandatory use making LOX if your planets suck. Making the tuner use 120W would at least make it slightly competitive early on, and it could also then be moved earlier in the tree to give it a role as an early-game heat mover. The tuner is always going to be better as it can use super coolant easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 11 hours ago, Hexicube said: This is something that just doesn't make sense, .. Making the tuner use 120W would at least make it slightly competitive early on, and it could also then be moved earlier in the tree to give it a role as an early-game heat mover. The tuner is always going to be better as it can use super coolant easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolthulhu Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 +1 The ease of use and reliability is worth some extra points, but it's certainly not worth ~300% efficiency (H2 gas tuner vs water aquatuner). Alternatively, the aquatuner cooling could be nerfed to half value or so. Aquatuner is amazing and excels at everything it attempts, it can take a nerf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfons100 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Coolthulhu said: +1 The ease of use and reliability is worth some extra points, but it's certainly not worth ~300% efficiency (H2 gas tuner vs water aquatuner). Alternatively, the aquatuner cooling could be nerfed to half value or so. Aquatuner is amazing and excels at everything it attempts, it can take a nerf. Err, thats a no from me. Nerfing the Aquatuner is not the way to go, since it will make high-grade cooling even harder to do, such as getting Liquid Hydrogen and vice versa. The purpose of the Aquatuner is high-grade cooling, the purpose of the thermo-regulator is smaller air temp regulation, changing the electricity values, and not the cooling values would annoy people the least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexicube Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 If the goal were to make them equal, you would have to make power consumption and cooling strength linked, by accounting for a liquids SHC; either increased power draw for increased SHC, or a fixed cooling rate. I'm not a fan of this approach, I think a tuner with super coolant should be best because super coolant is a space material, but I would still like to see the regulator be competitive early on. Given that the highest reasonable SHC available is 2.4, or arguably 4.179 (steam), compared to the 8.44 available with super coolant, the regulator could just be made more efficient (90W?). You would end up with an interesting scenario where it would be more efficient to use super coolant gas in a regulator, but that gas would be extremely hot to begin with, giving it few practical applications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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