Mast3r07 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 So.. Im trying to make a Contaminated Water - Steam - Pure Water system, but it isnt working and i dont know why. I built an isolated room with a gas pump for steam, a liquid pipe for the water and some batteries to boil it. The room temperature is 159.6 C and contaminated water evaporation point is cca 120 C. And it doesnt evaporate into steam.. Whats wrong here? The cracked door tho:)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinsoldier Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Saw a youtube video (Hello Lacy) on ONI steam and she said something about heat transfer to pooled water being really tricky and that it's better to drip the water on the hot equipment. Just a thought but maybe if you replaced one of the batteries with a liquid pump that led to several water vents, one above each battery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mast3r07 Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 I'll try this tomorrow, hope it will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epi1612 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I recently tried boiling water using batteries.. The key is to have lots of batteries.. I think. My first try was rather unsuccessful when I used 5 batteries. I think heat is generated only when you "charge" a battery. So having fewer of them would make the boiling slower and the water may cool instead whenever you're not charging the batteries. Not sure what the sweet number is.. but my current setup uses 10 batteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targa_X Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I wasn't planning on getting to steam water purification yet, but I did already have my batteries set up, so I did a quick test for you. IMO, you'll need a lot more batteries. Also, use a liquid valve and turn the flow rate down to the very minimum. On the bottom-left of the screenshot you'll see I just put a drain so excess water leaks out. You'll want to catch any runoff and pump it back into your reservoir (or locate your batteries above your reservoir). The soonest I saw it turning to steam was at battery #6. You can see "Steam" on my mouse tooltip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecu Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Targa_X said: I wasn't planning on getting to steam water purification yet, but I did already have my batteries set up, so I did a quick test for you. IMO, you'll need a lot more batteries. Also, use a liquid valve and turn the flow rate down to the very minimum. On the bottom-left of the screenshot you'll see I just put a drain so excess water leaks out. You'll want to catch any runoff and pump it back into your reservoir (or locate your batteries above your reservoir). The soonest I saw it turning to steam was at battery #6. You can see "Steam" on my mouse tooltip. I did not need nearly that amount to handle creating steam. I used 10 batteries in a completely enclosed area. The spout for water is on the far right under the tooltip (screenshot was to show a bug with ice). I produce steam perfectly fine with this setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doot_toot Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 48 minutes ago, Ecu said: I did not need nearly that amount to handle creating steam. I used 10 batteries in a completely enclosed area. The spout for water is on the far right under the tooltip (screenshot was to show a bug with ice). I produce steam perfectly fine with this setup. That's a lot of ice. How quickly are you are you purifying water with that setup? Just one valve set at 10g/s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecu Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 46 minutes ago, doot_toot said: That's a lot of ice. How quickly are you are you purifying water with that setup? Just one valve set at 10g/s? I currently don't have it valved at all, however, the only thing I had inputting contaminated water was some CO2 scrubbers. So you may want a tiered system to handle higher input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doot_toot Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, Ecu said: I currently don't have it valved at all, however, the only thing I had inputting contaminated water was some CO2 scrubbers. So you may want a tiered system to handle higher input. Definitely going to try this later. I mean, it's at least 30kg a day, that's tonnes. Two of those would keep a DL dupe alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mast3r07 Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 5 hours ago, Targa_X said: I wasn't planning on getting to steam water purification yet, but I did already have my batteries set up, so I did a quick test for you. IMO, you'll need a lot more batteries. Also, use a liquid valve and turn the flow rate down to the very minimum. On the bottom-left of the screenshot you'll see I just put a drain so excess water leaks out. You'll want to catch any runoff and pump it back into your reservoir (or locate your batteries above your reservoir). The soonest I saw it turning to steam was at battery #6. You can see "Steam" on my mouse tooltip. Ahah. I must expand my room then. My question now is, where will you place the gas pump(s) in the image? It seems that you dont have any space left. And a second one, what density has steam in relation with other gases? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinsoldier Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Just another data point, I experimented a bit last night and had a room with 3 batteries, a hydrogen generator and a water pump recirculating the water and it was producing steam but not much. It's too bad the hydrogen generators are so janky right now because they are way hotter than batteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaboots Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I've had a successful steam room with about 25 batteries and i believe I was able to make 100g of steam per second using your method OP. So it certainly is very efficient to a certain extent. The thing is I believe I just now found a more efficient way... I was reorganizing my electrolizer/hydrogen generator room and ended up deconstructing the generator. Seconds later I noticed all my plants were overheated. Turns out the material from the deconstructed generator was heating up the room temperature insanely (it was 400kg copper ore). It was at the temperature of the generator when functionning (about 926) and slowly cooled down. I then built a room with a hydrogen generator, powered it up, deconstructed it and poured contaminated water over it. The amount of steam I collected in such a short time span was tremendous compared to the battery stacking method. So ya'll might want to play around with this method! Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilda Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Problem with that is that free material is actually coolling down, objects don't change temperature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 But how quickly will it cool down? Because you could just go in and rebuild the generators over and over as needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mast3r07 Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 The problem with this method is that i must rebuild and deconstruct the generator in order to maintain high temperature in the room. And this means a door which will lead to water/gas leaks; the only way to avoid this is by pouring an ideal amount of water on the hot material and waiting for vacuum, then redo the previous steps. A lot of time is wasted IMO. But what if i dig straight to the magma core and make a room above it? Will the insane temperature lead to mass-production of steam? I can place some gas pumps and let the magma do the job for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Building 2 tiles up instead of a door is a much safer and completely leak-proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mast3r07 Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Chaboots said: I then built a room with a hydrogen generator, powered it up, deconstructed it and poured contaminated water over it. 4 minutes ago, Saturnus said: Building 2 tiles up instead of a door is a much safer and completely leak-proof. And how will i get in to collect the material left to cool down and replace it, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 By deconstructing the tiles and rebuild as needed. If I want something sealed of, I sure as hell don't build a door. I wall it in, and should I need to undo or redo something, I just break down the wall. It's a much more safe and permanent way of dealing with such things, and unlike door it's actually steam proof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mast3r07 Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 Oh, yeah:)) I will modify the room accordingly. But what about the "dig to the magma core" question? Worth the effort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I'm experimenting with different magma (or actually really hot igneous rock) boilers and sedimentary rock condenser designs but trials are promising. Even more promising is liquid oxygen thermoregulator precoolers by running the air through a loop in -60 degress rock at the top first before the the thermoregulator. Cuts energy cost to 1/3rd or 1/4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mast3r07 Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 Interesting.., Wait, you said at the top of the map is a -60 degrees rock layer? Power-free liquid oxygen production? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Not quite. Liquid oxygen is -187C. But precooling the air is like removing half the required thermoregulars needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilda Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Magma tends to cool to ingenous rock when uncovered but that rock is at about 1100°C making steam there is definitely viable if you find an accessible patch. And yes, there can be a quite cold biome up top. I am thinking of making a cold storage there but the trip length... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mast3r07 Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 Well, i have some work to do with these 2 projects. Thats the charm of the game right now ( because we have no objective, but to survive). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Magma is actually way too hot for a distiller, the steam will take too much effort to cool down again. 6-800C is much more optimal temperature for a boiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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