ProfMembrane Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Neotuck said: never block the top and bottom of an electrolizer, you'll end up with too much gas deletion Gas deletion? and how do you not block the bottom? It has to be on something. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95254-are-either-fertilizer-makers-or-electrolizers-net-power-positive/page/2/#findComment-1082045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Just now, ProfMembrane said: Gas deletion? and how do you not block the bottom? It has to be on something. airflow tiles Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95254-are-either-fertilizer-makers-or-electrolizers-net-power-positive/page/2/#findComment-1082046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfMembrane Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 Just now, Neotuck said: airflow tiles Ok, and what's "gas deletion?" Also when I'm making the room, does air flow diagonally from airflow tiles? Or can I just block it off by putting two tiles below the airflow tiles? Or do I have to surround them? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95254-are-either-fertilizer-makers-or-electrolizers-net-power-positive/page/2/#findComment-1082047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 most of the time when gas is generated by electrolizer it must push other gasses out of the way first, if the gas can't move very well it replaces the gas instead resulting in gas deletion most players set up a gas pump below the electrolizer and airflow tiles to collect oxygen, and one above it to collect hydrogen Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95254-are-either-fertilizer-makers-or-electrolizers-net-power-positive/page/2/#findComment-1082048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfMembrane Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, Neotuck said: most of the time when gas is generated by electrolizer it must push other gasses out of the way first, if the gas can't move very well it replaces the gas instead resulting in gas deletion most players set up a gas pump below the electrolizer and airflow tiles to collect oxygen, and one above it to collect hydrogen How many electrolizers can reliably fill a generator? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95254-are-either-fertilizer-makers-or-electrolizers-net-power-positive/page/2/#findComment-1082050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, ProfMembrane said: How man electrolizers can reliably fill a generator? well an electrolizer produces 112g/s hydrogen and a generator only needs 100g/s. The trick is having a setup that uses less than the 800w the generator generates so you get positive power for your base Here's a simple setup I have used, it's not perfect but it power's itself and provides a fair amount of O2 to my base The element sensor controls the shutoffs and work just as well as a gas filter and the storage tank holds the extra hydrogen Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95254-are-either-fertilizer-makers-or-electrolizers-net-power-positive/page/2/#findComment-1082053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slvrsrfr Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 8 hours ago, Neotuck said: try this one Seed: 1949537531 can confirm! This time I tried it. It works in CU, nice. ty! I love that you can get to it(them) w/o a miners apprentice. It'd be nice to have water for a change. Thanks again. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95254-are-either-fertilizer-makers-or-electrolizers-net-power-positive/page/2/#findComment-1082134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfMembrane Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 Thanks all, I'll try this and report back! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95254-are-either-fertilizer-makers-or-electrolizers-net-power-positive/page/2/#findComment-1082308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RblDiver Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Compact electrolyzer room: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95254-are-either-fertilizer-makers-or-electrolizers-net-power-positive/page/2/#findComment-1082311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 20 hours ago, ProfMembrane said: How many electrolizers can reliably fill a generator? One electrolyzer can keep a generator running non-stop -- provided you have somewhere to send all the oxygen. However, its much easier to do it with two electrolyzers and three fans, using the automatic sorting that the gas does on its own. For example, this is my favorite setup. Its liquid cooled so the oxygen is kept at 18c, and it can provide enough oxygen for 10 dupes. Spoiler I've posted about this one at length on this board, in the SPOM and similar threads. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95254-are-either-fertilizer-makers-or-electrolizers-net-power-positive/page/2/#findComment-1082345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfMembrane Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 17 hours ago, KittenIsAGeek said: One electrolyzer can keep a generator running non-stop -- provided you have somewhere to send all the oxygen. However, its much easier to do it with two electrolyzers and three fans, using the automatic sorting that the gas does on its own. For example, this is my favorite setup. Its liquid cooled so the oxygen is kept at 18c, and it can provide enough oxygen for 10 dupes. Reveal hidden contents I've posted about this one at length on this board, in the SPOM and similar threads. What does SPOM stand for? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95254-are-either-fertilizer-makers-or-electrolizers-net-power-positive/page/2/#findComment-1082524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djoums Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, ProfMembrane said: What does SPOM stand for? There's a search function on this forum, please use it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95254-are-either-fertilizer-makers-or-electrolizers-net-power-positive/page/2/#findComment-1082528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfMembrane Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 Just now, Djoums said: There's a search function on this forum, please use it. Sorry, thanks. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95254-are-either-fertilizer-makers-or-electrolizers-net-power-positive/page/2/#findComment-1082529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Speaking of.. I've done some re-designing with the latest rocketry buildings and my oxygen generation system is so efficient, I saved up 150kg of extra hydrogen in 10 cycles. That's enough hydrogen to run a generator for 2.5 cycles non-stop. My ENTIRE system is powered by a single hydrogen generator -- cooling, pumping water for the electrolyzers, everything. The entire electrical system in the rest of my base could fall apart and my dupes would still have cool clean air to breathe. I'm really liking these new liquid and gas reservoirs. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95254-are-either-fertilizer-makers-or-electrolizers-net-power-positive/page/2/#findComment-1082561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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