PikaChokeMe Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 So I have tried every way imaginable with sandbox mode to get steam power working and I can't do it... I thought I could use airlocks to compress enough oxygen to create heat and therefore steam, but after an automation circuit compressed an entire chamber to 40KG of oxygen at barely any temperature increase I realized that was pointless. I then tried tepidizers. No dice because the thing stops heating at a certain temperature and suffers overheating damage. I also tried using the heat of an oil geyser to heat metal tiles to 150C to then boil water, but that's still "Cold steam". I only have cold steam vents in my world too, so I don't see this going anywhere. I feel like my only option, is to literally dig straight down and just use the natural molten heat of the world which feels stupid and extremely unrealistic. I get that there were YouTube videos exploiting easy methods of making steam that were probably game breaking, but being a new player and trying to use this technology after what seems like was probably a huge nerf makes me feel like I've wasted 5 tiers of research on useless trash. Is there any reasonable way to get a steam turbine up and running? And why doesn't pressure create heat!? (literally unplayable) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94867-steam-turbines/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolthulhu Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 You need something like 230C steam. This is only achievable in bulk with magma, volcanoes, oil-cooled metal furnaces, glass furnaces, regolith and overheated aquatuner (will break). Steam turbine is not usable for energy generation in current state. Treat it as a heat deletion device that only works for volcanoes and furnaces. Pressure doesn't create heat because of "exclusion principle" - only one material per tile. This means that pressure has to vary wildly during normal game course. If pressure changes also changed heat, you'd get random heat spikes and drops and massive exploits involving displacing heavily pressurized gas with a tiny drop of water. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94867-steam-turbines/#findComment-1077856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzeTheGreat Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 3 hours ago, PikaChokeMe said: I thought I could use airlocks to compress enough oxygen to create heat and therefore steam There is no pressure/temperature relationship in ONI. That would be a pain to implement most likely - and starts to get to the point of simulating more than the average player is interested in dealing with. Also, oxygen wouldn't turn into steam anyways. 3 hours ago, PikaChokeMe said: I also tried using the heat of an oil geyser to heat metal tiles to 150C to then boil water, but that's still "Cold steam". You need your steam to get up above 230C. Your oil geyser should be able to provide that, as should various other things like: volcanoes, meteors, or glass. 3 hours ago, PikaChokeMe said: Is there any reasonable way to get a steam turbine up and running? Yeah. Isolate the steam turbine in a box with just steam. Use a heat source above 230C to supply heat to the bottom. Use a door pump on the side to maintain a pressure gradient. That's the easiest and least exploity way to do so. If you want there are also various exploits that make it easier. I typically consider Steam turbines to be primarily cooling methods though - the power they provide is typically more of a bonus to me. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94867-steam-turbines/#findComment-1077860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PikaChokeMe Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 3 hours ago, Coolthulhu said: oil-cooled metal furnaces never thought about this... you just pump oil instead of water into it? 3 hours ago, AzeTheGreat said: Your oil geyser should be able to provide that It's just a fissure it comes out at about 140 C... is there still a viable way to use this? 3 hours ago, AzeTheGreat said: Use a heat source above 230C to supply heat to the bottom. This is the part I still struggle with Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94867-steam-turbines/#findComment-1077896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
erso Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 There are like over 50 topics in this forum with some great solutions to this topic. The latest was: Or: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94867-steam-turbines/#findComment-1077899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 1 hour ago, erso said: There are like over 50 topics in this forum with some great solutions to this topic. The latest was: Or: It's a shame we need to exploit it to make it work. What most likely will happen down the road is that Klei will fix the exploit but as usual don't fix the steam turbine itself. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94867-steam-turbines/#findComment-1077908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzionut Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 For the steam turbine if you didn't use the inside gas variant you need to use the door compresor variant. there are no other way. I am thinking to heat the steam whit the regolith from the comets if i want to keep it, but for now I am trying to get rid of by melting it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94867-steam-turbines/#findComment-1077923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredhp Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Until rocket upgrade the only use i have for it was to capture excess heat from my oil cooker - Oil was dumped into a closed hot chamber, turned into NG and it was slowly cooled by turning water into steam. With automation steam was kind of reliable. Now that oil can't be turned into NG anymore, i dont know if i'll use it - the setup is too complicated for steam be considerated as an viable power source. Maybe i think a way after rocket upgrade is officially launched, but, with low priority, because due to Polluted water changes, Oil to Ng Changes and etc i will need to redesign almost everything from scratch. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94867-steam-turbines/#findComment-1077932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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