WanderingKid Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 So, before I go setting up a bug post, I figured I'd see if anyone had seen or dealt with a problem I keep having. My CO2 Liquidizer keeps over pressurizing the Hydrogen, causing me to need to bleed the system occasionally. I've had to do it three times now. What seems to happen is my pressure stays alright for a while, if a bit high, when it starts at 1300g and a lake of CO2. Then it'll jump around a lot as I include more CO2 to the valve, until I'm suddenly at 12 square of Hydrogen which have miraculously gone from an average pressure of 1300g and are now at 2200g. Once this happens, I have to go in and bleed out some of the hydrogen that's built up in the room, and it'll work fine again for a little while, they I have to do it again. I've confirmed while paused that all 12 of the squares of Hydrogen. I would typically only see this level of pressure until it happens with 3 or 4 squares of Hydrogen being pushed aside by the warm CO2. While I'm finding having to bleed the system ready to be a completely aggravating event, I'm more concerned about where the unknown pressure is coming from. No Hydrogen can get into the valve feeding the CO2, as it's a series of 120w filters to make sure it wasn't some leaking on a mechanical filter. This has happened and needed to bled from the system a few times now, so some of the bleed offs came with the system at 12 square, not 16. I typically bleed the system down to around 1000g, but because the gasses mix once the vent is able to get past the pressure, I have to let the system restabilize and check my hydrogen pressures again before I let the valve put more material in. When necessary a second bleed will be done after the vent finishes and the line is clear from the valve to the vent. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92626-atmospheric-pressure-build-up-on-stable-systems/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 file bug report, its probably a side effect of trying to stop gas deletion events Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92626-atmospheric-pressure-build-up-on-stable-systems/#findComment-1055786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, WanderingKid said: So, before I go setting up a bug post, I figured I'd see if anyone had seen or dealt with a problem I keep having. My CO2 Liquidizer keeps over pressurizing the Hydrogen, causing me to need to bleed the system occasionally. I've had to do it three times now. What seems to happen is my pressure stays alright for a while, if a bit high, when it starts at 1300g and a lake of CO2. Then it'll jump around a lot as I include more CO2 to the valve, until I'm suddenly at 12 square of Hydrogen which have miraculously gone from an average pressure of 1300g and are now at 2200g. Once this happens, I have to go in and bleed out some of the hydrogen that's built up in the room, and it'll work fine again for a little while, they I have to do it again. I've confirmed while paused that all 12 of the squares of Hydrogen. I would typically only see this level of pressure until it happens with 3 or 4 squares of Hydrogen being pushed aside by the warm CO2. While I'm finding having to bleed the system ready to be a completely aggravating event, I'm more concerned about where the unknown pressure is coming from. No Hydrogen can get into the valve feeding the CO2, as it's a series of 120w filters to make sure it wasn't some leaking on a mechanical filter. This has happened and needed to bled from the system a few times now, so some of the bleed offs came with the system at 12 square, not 16. I typically bleed the system down to around 1000g, but because the gasses mix once the vent is able to get past the pressure, I have to let the system restabilize and check my hydrogen pressures again before I let the valve put more material in. When necessary a second bleed will be done after the vent finishes and the line is clear from the valve to the vent. Same "leaking" like with airflowtiles and different liquids at high pressure (leaking through).. DIY: Build a U shaped thing of airtiles (close to) above oil pocket with higher pressure then >1800/tile, mix some polluted water on top of ground, then open pocket, let oil spill out (release pressure). When i do that, both liquids spill through the airflowtiles.. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92626-atmospheric-pressure-build-up-on-stable-systems/#findComment-1055788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WanderingKid Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 9 hours ago, Kabrute said: file bug report, its probably a side effect of trying to stop gas deletion events Thanks, bug report set. 9 hours ago, Oozinator said: Same "leaking" like with airflowtiles and different liquids at high pressure (leaking through).. DIY: Build a U shaped thing of airtiles (close to) above oil pocket with higher pressure then >1800/tile, mix some polluted water on top of ground, then open pocket, let oil spill out (release pressure). When i do that, both liquids spill through the airflowtiles.. I'm not sure this is the same bug. I don't even have airflow tiles in my use case. Perhaps setup a different bug report if you know how to reproduce that one? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92626-atmospheric-pressure-build-up-on-stable-systems/#findComment-1055947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blash365 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 So you are saying that you have - say - 13000g of hydrogen in a room and after a while you have 26000 without any hydrogen gas intake? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92626-atmospheric-pressure-build-up-on-stable-systems/#findComment-1055951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WanderingKid Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 @blash365 1300g to 2200g, but yes, once the system has liquidated all the CO2 in it I have found larger amounts of Hydrogen. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92626-atmospheric-pressure-build-up-on-stable-systems/#findComment-1055953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blash365 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Just now, WanderingKid said: @blash365 1300g to 2200g, but yes, once the system has liquidated all the CO2 in it I have found larger amounts of Hydrogen. i was trying to count all squares to account for any imbalances in pressure. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92626-atmospheric-pressure-build-up-on-stable-systems/#findComment-1055954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WanderingKid Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 Just now, blash365 said: i was trying to count all squares to account for any imbalances in pressure. 4 squares of liquid CO2, 12 squares of Hydrogen. Valve system shuts off all CO2 from external source to stabilize system and confirm that when squares are only Hydrogen. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92626-atmospheric-pressure-build-up-on-stable-systems/#findComment-1055955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blash365 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Well, in any case it seems like a bug. Make sure to add the savegame to your bug report so that we can get a swift fix.;) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92626-atmospheric-pressure-build-up-on-stable-systems/#findComment-1055957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WanderingKid Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, blash365 said: Well, in any case it seems like a bug. Make sure to add the savegame to your bug report so that we can get a swift fix.;) Added two, a before and after. and then rebooted and found it working again. Well, it'll happen again if I run it for a while. EDIT: … or, you know... in half a cycle. XD Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92626-atmospheric-pressure-build-up-on-stable-systems/#findComment-1055961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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