Temp Shift plate

[Oni Noob]

Hi,

Super curious I always see tempshift plate as one block apart from each other. Is this new to an update? Because before when I use temp shift plate its always adjacent to each other to transfer heat

 

[Albryant]

It's my understanding that tempshift plates affect a 3×3 radius around themselves, so putting them directly next to each other is redundant and a waste of materials.

[WanderingKid]

It has to do with how the space for tempshift works.  It uses the center square and the 8 around it.  You're basically sharing the space between two tempshifts with whatever medium is pushing the current temperature in the gap.

I find it works better to do this in liquids than in gases.  In any of my gas systems I find the solid block of tempshift is more effective for the specific temperatures I'm trying to reach.

[avc15]

tempshift plates, think of them as being in thermal contact with the "atmosphere" (be it solid, liquid or gas) of its center block and the surrounding blocks, like wanderingKid explained.

If two plates overlap, they don't transfer heat with each other directly, still only the foreground of those 9 blocks they touch.

So having plates overlap does shorten the heat transfer path somewhat (think of it as adding more paths from the hot end to the cold end, or making the thickness narrower), but having them spread out like in your picture is almost as good.

Mostly you only "pack" a room with plates if you want the room to have more total thermal capacity. Because, when there are more plates, it takes more heat input to even get a same change in temperature. (more metals = more materials soaking up heat)

[Carnis]

I think you can largely get away by having 2 square gaps even. This way, your tempshifts do not overlap, but rather set the conductivity of the whole zone to 60-80 depending If you use diamond or tungsten/gold. Gold is slightly better, though it melts easier.

[clickrush]

15 minutes ago, Albryant said:

It's my understanding that tempshift plates affect a 3×3 radius around themselves, so putting them directly next to each other is redundant and a waste of materials.

That entirely depends on the purpose of the plates.

More often than not they are used to stabilize the temperature of an area by adding a lot of mass and therefore heat capacity to it. Before the plates people tended to use metal doors, sculptures and showers for that purpose.

For example if you build a water tank which is used for plant irrigation then you want a very stable temperature. Adding diamond plates, which have a very high heat capacity *and* conductivity will not only even out the temperature across the tank but also drastically increase the stability because temperature fluctuations of added water (hotter or colder water) will be soaked up by the sheer termal mass of the tank. In this case you'd definitely want to add as many tempshift plates as possible into the tank, meaning you won't spread them out but build them tightly together.

In other cases for example Oil and PH2O cookers you are opting for a very fast heat exchange between tiles. Typically you'd use materials that have high conductivity but also a lower capacity to increase the speed at which the heat exchanges, so your system doesn't have to go through a priming phase, when heat is added in bulks. So typically Gold or Tungsten. Here it *might* be slightly wasteful to cover an area fully with plates. But I think even you make your system slightly more reactive and faster if you cover your entire backwall.

[Oni Noob]

5 hours ago, clickrush said:

That entirely depends on the purpose of the plates.

More often than not they are used to stabilize the temperature of an area by adding a lot of mass and therefore heat capacity to it. Before the plates people tended to use metal doors, sculptures and showers for that purpose.

For example if you build a water tank which is used for plant irrigation then you want a very stable temperature. Adding diamond plates, which have a very high heat capacity *and* conductivity will not only even out the temperature across the tank but also drastically increase the stability because temperature fluctuations of added water (hotter or colder water) will be soaked up by the sheer termal mass of the tank. In this case you'd definitely want to add as many tempshift plates as possible into the tank, meaning you won't spread them out but build them tightly together.

In other cases for example Oil and PH2O cookers you are opting for a very fast heat exchange between tiles. Typically you'd use materials that have high conductivity but also a lower capacity to increase the speed at which the heat exchanges, so your system doesn't have to go through a priming phase, when heat is added in bulks. So typically Gold or Tungsten. Here it *might* be slightly wasteful to cover an area fully with plates. But I think even you make your system slightly more reactive and faster if you cover your entire backwall.

If I do not have diamonds yet what can I use as a cheaper replacement material for stabilizing the temp of my water

[WanderingKid]

16 minutes ago, Oni Noob said:

If I do not have diamonds yet what can I use as a cheaper replacement material for stabilizing the temp of my water

Granite is the usual go to, Metals and Diamond are just better.