0xFADE Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Omelette master room: One dupe is locked in their own personal room with a grill and a mission. Only specific eggs are delivered to the fridge above and the omelettes are delivered to the other one. Still requires some management but it is better than having specific rooms with tons of random permissions for specific eggs etc. I've got a little too many cute shine bugs flying around. But I suspect that is their intent as mobile decor. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90766-omelette-master-room/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
landromat Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 good old kitchen slavery. I think there is a way for automation somewhere Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90766-omelette-master-room/#findComment-1034898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted May 12, 2018 Author Share Posted May 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, landromat said: good old kitchen slavery. I think there is a way for automation somewhere Probably. If morning comes and the egg fridge is full then lock the doors keeping the dupe inside. Though I imagine even a priority 1 grill will have some random egg delivered to it by some well meaning dupe. Perhaps delivery does not happen if something is shut off with automation. Seems to be that way based on how the coal power works. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90766-omelette-master-room/#findComment-1034901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
landromat Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, 0xFADE said: Probably. If morning comes and the egg fridge is full then lock the doors keeping the dupe inside. Though I imagine even a priority 1 grill will have some random egg delivered to it by some well meaning dupe. Perhaps delivery does not happen if something is shut off with automation. Seems to be that way based on how the coal power works. or you can make access to the room only for 1 dupe with door acess and disable his supply and storage priority and refill grill with auto sweeper. I should try it for my colony Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90766-omelette-master-room/#findComment-1034904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted May 13, 2018 Author Share Posted May 13, 2018 The problem with doing door access for a single dupe is you have to turn it off for everyone else, and you have to remember to turn off any new person you bring in through the printer. I did check though. I had a priority 9 grill requesting an omelette and it was disabled through automation and no one delivered to it. So that door lock time of day thing will work. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90766-omelette-master-room/#findComment-1034905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
landromat Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, 0xFADE said: you have to turn it off for everyone else i don't see any problems here. You don't print dupes once you got needed amount. And you don't need to close your dupes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90766-omelette-master-room/#findComment-1034906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 If you set it to default no access then only grant permission to 1 dupe you don't have these problems @0xFADE Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90766-omelette-master-room/#findComment-1034909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
landromat Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Just build it. It works perfect. Fridge priority is 8 grill is 9. sweeper has free access to the fridge and constantly refills the grill, and dupe with disabled storage cooking it. I guess we found the way too cook certain eggs only Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90766-omelette-master-room/#findComment-1034910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted May 13, 2018 Author Share Posted May 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Kabrute said: If you set it to default no access then only grant permission to 1 dupe you don't have these problems @0xFADE I admit I have never tried to change the default access to nothing and then set specific people to allowed. I could swear that after turning off default access the lower section went dark. 1 minute ago, landromat said: Just build it. It works perfect. Fridge priority is 8 grill is 9. sweeper has free access to the fridge and constantly refills the grill, and dupe with disabled storage cooking it. I guess we found the way too cook certain eggs only Nice. You will need to be sure it always has an egg in it or someone random may still try and deliver to it? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90766-omelette-master-room/#findComment-1034912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
landromat Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, 0xFADE said: You will need to be sure it always has an egg in it or someone random may still try and deliver to it? they can't deliver it to the grill because of door access. Chief has disabled storage and deliver so he'll never deliver eggs too. So dupes will deliver only certain eggs to the fridge and Chief will cook it. Don't need to worry about anything Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90766-omelette-master-room/#findComment-1034914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted May 13, 2018 Author Share Posted May 13, 2018 Just now, landromat said: they can't deliver it to the grill because of door access. Chief has disabled storage and deliver so he'll never deliver eggs too. So dupes will deliver only certain eggs to the fridge and Chief will cook it. Don't need to worry about anything Alright good. Very nice. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90766-omelette-master-room/#findComment-1034915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
landromat Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Just now, 0xFADE said: Alright good. Very nice. never mind, Chief ignores his permissions and delivers eggs anyway. I don't know what type of work is egg delivery if not storage and delivery Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90766-omelette-master-room/#findComment-1034916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted May 13, 2018 Author Share Posted May 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, landromat said: never mind, Chief ignores his permissions and delivers eggs anyway. I don't know what type of work is egg delivery if not storage and delivery Ah well, I also found out someone did eventually deliver an egg to a disabled grill. So debugging continues. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90766-omelette-master-room/#findComment-1034917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greep Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 I thought of doing a larger version of this sort of thing for a rancher. Rancher's and cooks both generally only have one activity, so may as well optimize that. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90766-omelette-master-room/#findComment-1034920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
landromat Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 i set fridge max storage to 1kg (1 egg) and use buffer because auto sweeper don't want to refill disabled grill. So cooking will start only with full grill + 1 egg in the fridge. It kinda works Yes. this works fine and you don't even need door access. 2 fridges: 100 kg and 1 kg. 100kg priority is 1 less than 1kg. 1 kg fridge gives you signal that grill is full. Dupes can't refill already full grill, and i can't see dupes refilling disabled grill. grill priority is 5 btw. Sweeper always will refill it even from 9 priority fridge. So with this system grill is always refilled with autosweeper from the fridge with certain eggs and dupes will never refill it because there is never enough space for them to refill. So you always cook certain eggs. I'll take a look for it, but looks like it works Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90766-omelette-master-room/#findComment-1034921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
landromat Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 I probably should create new post about this thing because it's really simple and works perfectly Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90766-omelette-master-room/#findComment-1034925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted May 13, 2018 Author Share Posted May 13, 2018 I've still had eggs delivered to a disabled grill. Perhaps when a day starts or the game restarts there is a moment when it isn't considered disabled and they will queue up a delivery. But yes that is a very simple design Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90766-omelette-master-room/#findComment-1034926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
landromat Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 1 minute ago, 0xFADE said: I've still had eggs delivered to a disabled grill. Perhaps when a day starts or the game restarts there is a moment when it isn't considered disabled and they will queue up a delivery. But yes that is a very simple design they can't deliver eggs to a full grill. So that should never happen. Dupe cook the egg, and grill is refilled immediatly. and then, if there is one more egg in second fridge, sweeper will put it into signal fridge and precess continues, otherwise grill is disabled. Always 3 eggs in the grill, dupes can't refill it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90766-omelette-master-room/#findComment-1034929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted May 13, 2018 Author Share Posted May 13, 2018 Still think you'd be safer if you disabled the door instead of the grill and had another exit only door. If I never saw anything delivered to the ones I'd disabled I'd think it would be fine. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90766-omelette-master-room/#findComment-1034931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
landromat Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 1 minute ago, 0xFADE said: Still think you'd be safer if you disabled the door instead of the grill and had another exit only door. If I never saw anything delivered to the ones I'd disabled I'd think it would be fine. 3 eggs are always in the grill. disabled or not, dupes physycally can't refill it. that's the point. 3 eggs always will be there Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90766-omelette-master-room/#findComment-1034932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mach26 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, landromat said: 3 eggs are always in the grill. disabled or not, dupes physycally can't refill it. that's the point. 3 eggs always will be there I was thinking to apply your model, but what if you are out of eggs that you want to get rid of and only valuable ones left? Then dupes will going to take my precious eggs and fill the grill. Am I right or missing something? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90766-omelette-master-room/#findComment-1034939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
landromat Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Just now, Mach26 said: I was thinking to apply your model, but what if you are out of eggs that you want to get rid of and only valuable ones left? Then dupes will going to take my precious eggs and fill the grill. Am I right or missing something? 3 eggs in the grill. System disables itself if you have less than 4 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90766-omelette-master-room/#findComment-1034940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mach26 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 One more problem (or question). I built exactly your model. But sometimes dupes become idle. When it happens, I think, they take over sweeper job (moving eggs from 1kg fridge to grill) and refill the grill with some other eggs they picked somewhere else. never mind, found my mistake. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90766-omelette-master-room/#findComment-1034950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted May 13, 2018 Author Share Posted May 13, 2018 Still suspect if there are no eggs for a long time (like you stop ranching x) meaning all the requested eggs have been consumed down to the last eggs in the grill those eggs will eventually hatch and then you are in a situation where a dupe will deliver. Doors can be right next to the grill and dupes will not be in range to deliver. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90766-omelette-master-room/#findComment-1034961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
landromat Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, 0xFADE said: Still suspect if there are no eggs for a long time (like you stop ranching x) meaning all the requested eggs have been consumed down to the last eggs in the grill those eggs will eventually hatch and then you are in a situation where a dupe will deliver. Doors can be right next to the grill and dupes will not be in range to deliver. yeah, if there was no eggs in 20 cycles dupes will deviler 3 any eggs. Question is do we really care about 3 eggs per 20 cycles loss. also, you can always just remove omlette task from grill if you don't want to cook anything Here is more info about my setup btw Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90766-omelette-master-room/#findComment-1034965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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