MythN7 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 So the only abys material I have anywhere near the start and it seems any ice area is after the slime areas. Tried storing the stuff in an obsidian compactor inside 21C water, the rate of change was like 0.1 every 10 or so cycles it seems. So if I build abys walls around a mid 23-25C area, and the tiles build at 36-38C will this warm up my garden area? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88936-abys-hot-material-to-wall-off-garden/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amara313 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Eventually......in a couple of thousand cycles. But you probably won't know about it. Abs tiles give off heat at such a low rate that it will be a long, long, long time, before you notice it warming up. Same with using it to cool something off. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88936-abys-hot-material-to-wall-off-garden/#findComment-1017847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
travaldofan Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 if u use abyssalite and build insulated tile it will never change heat but not worth it thou, insulated tile vs tile difference is nothing Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88936-abys-hot-material-to-wall-off-garden/#findComment-1017848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MythN7 Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Amara313 said: Eventually......in a couple of thousand cycles. But you probably won't know about it. Abs tiles give off heat at such a low rate that it will be a long, long, long time, before you notice it warming up. Same with using it to cool something off. ok, so if i was to say use the cold abys from the ice areas to insulate my hot rooms its the same concept, it wont noticeably chill the room im trying to heat? Is this the same for the slow heating material? using it for the purpose when it builds at drastically higher or lower temps than the room its for? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88936-abys-hot-material-to-wall-off-garden/#findComment-1017849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amara313 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Just now, MythN7 said: ok, so if i was to say use the cold abys from the ice areas to insulate my hot rooms its the same concept, it wont noticeably chill the room im trying to heat? Is this the same for the slow heating material? using it for the purpose when it builds at drastically higher or lower temps than the room its for? Absylite is kind of special........The thermal conductivity is really, really low. Other materials will have different effects. If you check the forums, there have been posts about which materials are more conductive than others. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88936-abys-hot-material-to-wall-off-garden/#findComment-1017850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MythN7 Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 Just now, Amara313 said: Absylite is kind of special........The thermal conductivity is really, really low. Other materials will have different effects. If you check the forums, there have been posts about which materials are more conductive than others. ya i been looking and know it takes long time to transfer heat to them, but i wasent sure if conductive gasses or materials adjacent would warm up faster cause of its heat type of thought. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88936-abys-hot-material-to-wall-off-garden/#findComment-1017851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amara313 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Just now, MythN7 said: ya i been looking and know it takes long time to transfer heat to them, but i wasent sure if conductive gasses or materials adjacent would warm up faster cause of its heat type of thought. It doesn't seem to. I've used 40-50C Absylite. There was no change after a couple hundred cycles. even running cold water through the area. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88936-abys-hot-material-to-wall-off-garden/#findComment-1017853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
travaldofan Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 so if i remember right, just dont place tempshift plates near your abyssalite normal tile, and it will never change heat Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88936-abys-hot-material-to-wall-off-garden/#findComment-1017854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Amara313 said: It doesn't seem to. I've used 40-50C Absylite. There was no change after a couple hundred cycles. even running cold water through the area. Abys is an isolator Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88936-abys-hot-material-to-wall-off-garden/#findComment-1017855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
travaldofan Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 bcs abyssalite thermal consuctivity is 0.00001 so it will almost never change heat Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88936-abys-hot-material-to-wall-off-garden/#findComment-1017856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MythN7 Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 Just now, Amara313 said: It doesn't seem to. I've used 40-50C Absylite. There was no change after a couple hundred cycles. even running cold water through the area. cool. theres so much physics in the game its crazy. Like I was playing around testing with blocks, like putting cold obsidian builds around a single abys hot build tile then I built a few spaces away in the same room temp the circle of obsidian but without the center abys tile, to see if the obsidian around the hot abys would heat faster than the ones not. it was changing so slow I couldn't tell if there was a difference in rate. Not sure if this is how it is in real life. In terms of different conductive rate materials touching each other. Wonder if they will factor this type of heat shift at some point in the game. Like putting diamond shift plates around insulated abys type of thing. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88936-abys-hot-material-to-wall-off-garden/#findComment-1017857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
avc15 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 dont even think about whether your abyssalite walls are heating or cooling your room. Just think of them as being basically a perfect insulator. It may itself have a temperature but that has almost no effect on what the temperature IN the room will be. If you think of it like heat can't cross an abyssalite barrier you'll be headed in the right direction. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88936-abys-hot-material-to-wall-off-garden/#findComment-1018176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 12:20 PM, MythN7 said: ya i been looking and know it takes long time to transfer heat to them, but i wasent sure if conductive gasses or materials adjacent would warm up faster cause of its heat type of thought. In the tests that people have run previously, you have to have an extremely high temperature delta in order to really affect abysallite at all. Within a couple hundred degrees C or so, fractional rounding completely eliminates any energy transfer to/from abyssalite. For example, you'll see abysallite warm up if you wall off a chamber of magma with cold biome abysallite, but you won't see a change if you use hot biome abyssalite. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88936-abys-hot-material-to-wall-off-garden/#findComment-1018312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MythN7 Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 Just now, KittenIsAGeek said: In the tests that people have run previously, you have to have an extremely high temperature delta in order to really affect abysallite at all. Within a couple hundred degrees C or so, fractional rounding completely eliminates any energy transfer to/from abyssalite. For example, you'll see abysallite warm up if you wall off a chamber of magma with cold biome abysallite, but you won't see a change if you use hot biome abyssalite. i have noticed in terms of the raw mineral in storage or lying around. Same goes with ice. The larger the stack the harder it is to change temp. I had a stack of 20T ice in a obsidian compactor, dam crap refused to melt. but storing it in like a few hundred or less than a T it melts so fast. same with abys. in chunks of around < 400 or so, i was seeing 0,1 temp change per cycle but after they boosted the stack in the storage, it no longer was budging. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88936-abys-hot-material-to-wall-off-garden/#findComment-1018314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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