JonnyMonroe Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I've discussed this before as a concept but I decided to go and build one to see how it plays out. Presenting the automatic hatch feeder: The smart compactor hold whatever you want to feed the hatches and the upper loader is set to accept the same. The arm takes an item and shuts itself down after 0.1s (via the buffer gate), causing it to drop the item. The weight plate throttles the whole system to whatever rate the hatches are eating at and the bottom sweeper collects the coal. I'm loading the upper compactor manually currently but it's easy enough to set up a sweeper arm and conveyor system to feed it. I plan to use this to centralise my coal production (currently I have hatches all over the place and I ship coal in from all over the world). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88306-auto-hatch-feeder/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutzkhie Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 why use heavy wire? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88306-auto-hatch-feeder/#findComment-1011106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyMonroe Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 Just now, Lutzkhie said: why use heavy wire? Hatches don't care about decor and I wasn't that bothered about saving a few hundred kg of metal on this map. I've built pretty much everything I want to build and I've barely scratched the metal veins I've revealed so far. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88306-auto-hatch-feeder/#findComment-1011107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 why have a loader in the upper right side of your build? wouldn't a storage compactor work just as well and those don't need power Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88306-auto-hatch-feeder/#findComment-1011121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyMonroe Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, Neotuck said: why have a loader in the upper right side of your build? wouldn't a storage compactor work just as well and those don't need power Good point. I'll change it. Although loaders only draw power when they're pushing items onto a conveyor. Edit - Oh I remember now. I wanted storage that allowed me to disable manual loading so dupes didn't put stuff in there. Even with sweep only they might sometimes put junk in it when I sweep up after rebuilding some stuff. I guess though I could lock it behind a door. Sweepers will still try and dump items into storage without line of sight. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88306-auto-hatch-feeder/#findComment-1011124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Just now, JonnyMonroe said: Good point. I'll change it. Although loaders only draw power when they're pushing items onto a conveyor. well I would say it saves on metal too but you told @Lutzkhie you're not concerned with saving metal Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88306-auto-hatch-feeder/#findComment-1011126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyMonroe Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Neotuck said: well I would say it saves on metal too but you told @Lutzkhie you're not concerned with saving metal How's that? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88306-auto-hatch-feeder/#findComment-1011128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Just now, JonnyMonroe said: How's that? I assumed because of what you said here 48 minutes ago, JonnyMonroe said: I've built pretty much everything I want to build and I've barely scratched the metal veins I've revealed so far. and I agree sweepers sometimes get into conflict with dupes if they try to move or sweep items that's meant for your sweeper, that's why I always keep them out of reach by dupes. I learned this when I tried to have sweepers pick up harvested crops and use a conveyor rail to send them to my kitchen to be cooked. However sometimes the sweeper would ignore the dropped crop and my farmer would carry it all the way to the kitchen and cut time better used for the farm station. I fixed this by restricting doors access to my kitchens and green houses so only cooks can go into the kitchen and farmers into the greenhouses. Now sweepers picks up crops 100% of the time Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88306-auto-hatch-feeder/#findComment-1011129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyMonroe Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 Just now, Neotuck said: I assumed because of what you said here No, I mean 'how's that now I've changed it.' And yeah sweepers conflicting with dupes is annoying and I think klei should just allow sweepers to steal sweep jobs from dupes. This issue with this specific setup is the right hand loader has to be higher priority than the compactor so dupes WILL try and move items from one to the other if they can. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88306-auto-hatch-feeder/#findComment-1011132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 minute ago, JonnyMonroe said: No, I mean 'how's that now I've changed it.' oops, some reason the picture didn't show up when I read that, looks good! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88306-auto-hatch-feeder/#findComment-1011136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyMonroe Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 Just now, Neotuck said: oops, some reason the picture didn't show up when I read that, looks good! I'm not saying this is definitely what happened, but it's totally possible that I posted it and forgot to put the screenshot in then edited it in afterwards. Just a theory. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88306-auto-hatch-feeder/#findComment-1011137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Just now, JonnyMonroe said: Just a theory. happens to all of us Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88306-auto-hatch-feeder/#findComment-1011138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MythN7 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 heh, the day before you, i posted a request for a smart storage feeder for the hatches. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88306-auto-hatch-feeder/#findComment-1012423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 I have found that it's better to have a door built on top of the switch and keep hatches stuck in the door. When they don't wander around they are faster to take a snack. Unfortunately it only works for up to four hatches per switch, otherwise they get over the maximum value that can be set for the switch. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88306-auto-hatch-feeder/#findComment-1012432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyMonroe Posted March 8, 2018 Author Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Kasuha said: I have found that it's better to have a door built on top of the switch and keep hatches stuck in the door. When they don't wander around they are faster to take a snack. Unfortunately it only works for up to four hatches per switch, otherwise they get over the maximum value that can be set for the switch. You could forgo the switch entirely and throttle the system with a 2nd smart compactor where you gather your coal, and send new material in when there is space in that compactor. Or set up a clock based on your desired throughput. Or ignore throttling the system and let it run as fast as you can provide material. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88306-auto-hatch-feeder/#findComment-1012453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 This is my feeder. Spoiler The entry has a compactor because the receptacle can only hold 100 kg and if the feeder locks up, it stops the whole conveyor very soon. The output end has a compactor too because I found that it sometimes forgets to deliver to a loader. And it sometimes does a delivery, so there's another always-on arm that then empties the compactor to a loader, and another always-on arm that empties the receptacle and feeds the compactor. The logic is there so that the leftmost 'empty enough' cage gets a bite because I don't want all three arms to be battling of the same compactor - it kinda doesn't work well. Lots of bad experience went into this but in the end it has reasonable function. The only problem is that whenever I look somewhere else in the map for long enough, it stops feeding and the fertilizer only ends up in the compactor. Auto sweepers still have some issues to fix. Though I guess we might lose their auto-feeding function with that. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88306-auto-hatch-feeder/#findComment-1012542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, Kasuha said: This is my feeder. Reveal hidden contents The entry has a compactor because the receptacle can only hold 100 kg and if the feeder locks up, it stops the whole conveyor very soon. The output end has a compactor too because I found that it sometimes forgets to deliver to a loader. And it sometimes does a delivery, so there's another always-on arm that then empties the compactor to a loader, and another always-on arm that empties the receptacle and feeds the compactor. The logic is there so that the leftmost 'empty enough' cage gets a bite because I don't want all three arms to be battling of the same compactor - it kinda doesn't work well. Lots of bad experience went into this but in the end it has reasonable function. The only problem is that whenever I look somewhere else in the map for long enough, it stops feeding and the fertilizer only ends up in the compactor. Auto sweepers still have some issues to fix. Though I guess we might lose their auto-feeding function with that. like many things when a new update happens a lot of creative builds become obsolete. Now there is a critter feeder Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88306-auto-hatch-feeder/#findComment-1012550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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