Subidubi32 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Is Oxygen not included a semi-closed system? I mean I have 60 hours in the game now, I don't know all the aspects. It seems to me, that there are plentiful matter input to the play area(all of the geysers, and oil reservoirs) that pumps infinite matter into your game. But as far as I know, you can remove magically energy from the system via wheezeworts, and thermonullifyer(which I haven't used yet). Does it means, that your play will eventually fill with matter? Mostly with gas, like CO2, and O2? Thanks for your help. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86900-is-oxygen-not-included-a-semi-closed-system/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
blash365 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 O2 can be consumed by Dupes, CO2 can be consumed by slicksters or carbon skimmers. If all fails, you can even feed frozen solid gases to hatches (not sure whether they surive it). There is a sink for most elements of the game, not sure yet how well everything is balanced out. As far as i can tell there is no dedicated sink for chlorine yet. Also there seems to be no renewable source for minerals, so you will eventually run out of stuff to build from. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86900-is-oxygen-not-included-a-semi-closed-system/#findComment-997206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarquan Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Keep in mind if we can find a new way to boil petroleum sustainably , then you get more polluted water per unit mass of petroleum if you run it through a natural gas generator. If you convert the CO2 to crude oil with slicksters, then use it for petroleum, then you net-lose CO2. The geysers also cap at 5 kg pressure (except steam geyser, which caps at 1000 kg pressure I believe), so eventually mass stops coming in. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86900-is-oxygen-not-included-a-semi-closed-system/#findComment-997213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrindThisGame Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 4 hours ago, blash365 said: As far as i can tell there is no dedicated sink for chlorine yet. I've noticed that killing germs eats chlorine gas. I usually make a chlorine food storage room. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86900-is-oxygen-not-included-a-semi-closed-system/#findComment-997278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacost Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Eventually, is a pretty long term word in this context. Keep in mind that you can solidify pretty much everything in the game, which allows you to store it in storage compactors. Theoretically you could store 10.000 kg of substance per tile over your map. Sooo, if you would accept the challenge to fill a map with the maximum achieveable mass, then I will see you again in 5 years. In practice the opposite is happening. You dig out resources and store them in a very compact way which means that most rooms won't even get to maximum gas pressure if you don't pressurize them on purpose. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86900-is-oxygen-not-included-a-semi-closed-system/#findComment-997281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 After a little playing around the game will allow gas to be compressed to over 2250000kg/cell without crashing.as such you will cycle dilation death before hitting a max atmosphere level in game Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86900-is-oxygen-not-included-a-semi-closed-system/#findComment-997344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarquan Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I don't think chlorine in a room killing germs eliminates chlorine. I've had a chlorine storage room at 2 kg pressure for over 100 cycles and cut off the pipes. There is still 2 kg pressure. Ore scrubbers eat chlorine though. Worst case scenario, freeze the chlorine and feed it to hatches. But chlorine only comes in through a chlorine geyser and caps out at 5 kg pressure, so you don't really need to worry about it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86900-is-oxygen-not-included-a-semi-closed-system/#findComment-997396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blash365 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Oh, i didnt have the ore scrubber on my radar. Did not have a usecase for it unfortunately. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86900-is-oxygen-not-included-a-semi-closed-system/#findComment-997684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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