Arash70 Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 You see gases act in 2 ways inside a pipe: If both coming to a gas tile are oxygen or both hydrogen they will add up, If one is oxygen, and one hydrogen, it'll make the second gas wait, so it'll make a bottleneck. Filtering then adding is the best choice. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86721-little-oxygen-generator/page/2/#findComment-1005358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pg13 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 This one requires no filter and will provide steady supply of oxygen at 19C for about 5 dupes, also my base has been running for over 200 cycles of of the hydrogen produces in these and the entire system needs only 360w at its peak, note: the air pump below the wheezworts is not needed I am using it only to pump air to my exosuits, also I'm pretty sure I could make it more compact Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86721-little-oxygen-generator/page/2/#findComment-1005361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arash70 Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, pg13 said: This one requires no filter and will provide steady supply of oxygen at 19C for about 5 dupes, also my base has been running for over 200 cycles of of the hydrogen produces in these and the entire system needs only 360w at its peak, note: the air pump below the wheezworts is not needed I am using it only to pump air to my exosuits, also I'm pretty sure I could make it more compact Thanks for sharing, how does that work? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86721-little-oxygen-generator/page/2/#findComment-1005364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pg13 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 It's an old design where the electrolyzer is sunk into water to avoid "max pressure" notification and work 100% of the time. Also its automatically filtering the hydrogen and oxygen thru the airflow tiles (don't really know how this works) and hydrogen gets built up in the left room, the pump is active only if hydrogen is over 2000g, so the wheezies are always in the hydrogen cooling their surroundings and through metal tiles and tempshift plates it's cooling the produced oxygen. Also the electrolyzer works only if pressure is under 3000 and temperature under 19, with 4 wheezies I was getting too much oxygen and the electrolyzer would briefly stop working, making the wheezworts cool the oxygen more than wanted, that's why I reduced it to 3. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86721-little-oxygen-generator/page/2/#findComment-1005366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoma_Nosme Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 @Arash70 46 minutes ago, Arash70 said: Gas overlay: If you look your pumps are not pumping 500g packets all the time. Try this if you like. Make the pipes coming from the the pumps a little longer so u have a buffer. As long as the pumps are pumping you are not losing any gas. 1 filter is no bottleneck it will just process bigger packets maybe try a pipe bridge. I am 100% positive it works just uses less power since u filter 1000g packs most of the time with only 1 filter Edit: to clarify. If the small packs have to wait a little while merging with the other pumps output they will merge inside their own pipe too Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86721-little-oxygen-generator/page/2/#findComment-1005368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ppere Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 the best you've tried, self-sufficient Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86721-little-oxygen-generator/page/2/#findComment-1005378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arash70 Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 19 minutes ago, Yoma_Nosme said: @Arash70 If you look your pumps are not pumping 500g packets all the time. Try this if you like. Make the pipes coming from the the pumps a little longer so u have a buffer. As long as the pumps are pumping you are not losing any gas. 1 filter is no bottleneck it will just process bigger packets maybe try a pipe bridge. I am 100% positive it works just uses less power since u filter 1000g packs most of the time with only 1 filter Edit: to clarify. If the small packs have to wait a little while merging with the other pumps output they will merge inside their own pipe too That would still bottleneck a little bit, this generates more oxygen. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86721-little-oxygen-generator/page/2/#findComment-1005379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arash70 Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 Another little oxygen generator v2 (without filter): Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86721-little-oxygen-generator/page/2/#findComment-1006717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 21 minutes ago, Arash70 said: Another little oxygen generator v2 (without filter): When you are happy with it. ^^ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86721-little-oxygen-generator/page/2/#findComment-1006719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arash70 Posted February 21, 2018 Author Share Posted February 21, 2018 On 2/20/2018 at 1:15 PM, Oozinator said: When you are happy with it. ^^ Eventually there will be a huge hydrogen buildup and we'll end up with something like this: 62kg of hydrogen (Thanks to Lifegrow for demonstrating this in his videos) that'll be enough to run an entire colony using hydrogen Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86721-little-oxygen-generator/page/2/#findComment-1007215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, Arash70 said: (Thanks to Lifegrow for demonstrating this in his videos) I thought he was one of the last "good boy bro buds", sailing with his cheat free rift, through the dark exploity oceans. That makes me sad. 7 minutes ago, Arash70 said: ..that'll be enough to run an entire colony using hydrogen 10 entire bases. Hydro gens are cool, i like to use them, more then NG plants. Hydro should ignite, when overpressurized/overheated. Smart batterys for the win :) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86721-little-oxygen-generator/page/2/#findComment-1007218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arash70 Posted February 21, 2018 Author Share Posted February 21, 2018 This shouldnt be a cheat really, I mean what was I suppose to do with like 100kgs of hydrogen? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86721-little-oxygen-generator/page/2/#findComment-1007221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Just now, Arash70 said: This shouldnt be a cheat really, I mean what was I suppose to do with like 100kgs of hydrogen? Theoretically it's not needed, to store things, for pure mass storage. Most things could be easy balanced out, like JIT(just in time). Limitations exists and are dupe numbers, for example (oxygen usage/electrolyzer amount/ O² output. But yes, hoarding is part of human nature and it starts always with "one tiny thing" Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86721-little-oxygen-generator/page/2/#findComment-1007225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arash70 Posted March 31, 2018 Author Share Posted March 31, 2018 Yet another little oxygen generator (no cooling): In my recent base I decided that I don't really need much cooling for the base -- does heat really matter? (except for agriculture area + refrigerators), so I came up with this: Overview: Power: Gas piping: It runs 24/7 without a problem. I know I should add couple of atmo sensors + wheezeworts in there, but I don't really feel the need right now. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86721-little-oxygen-generator/page/2/#findComment-1021776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 look dead center of my screen, see that bridge? its an automated bypass the one on the hydrogen line these are buffer loops and if the system backs up with too much it overflows down that lefthand pipe to the overflow area. (weezie cooling tower in my case) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86721-little-oxygen-generator/page/2/#findComment-1021806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenshi Kirai Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 works well Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86721-little-oxygen-generator/page/2/#findComment-1021852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Mine is currently supporting 12 dupes (10 if none have diver's lungs) and produces a steady 605kg/cycle of oxygen at a perfect 19c. Spoiler Oh.. AND it produces more power than it uses, so my base currently runs mostly off hydrogen power. Coal generators kick in if there's a high load, but otherwise its exclusively hydrogen. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86721-little-oxygen-generator/page/2/#findComment-1021858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arash70 Posted April 1, 2018 Author Share Posted April 1, 2018 9 hours ago, Kabrute said: look dead center of my screen, see that bridge? its an automated bypass the one on the hydrogen line these are buffer loops and if the system backs up with too much it overflows down that lefthand pipe to the overflow area. (weezie cooling tower in my case) Interesting, can it be made with just 1 bridge? or 2 bridges must be used? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86721-little-oxygen-generator/page/2/#findComment-1021982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 need one bridge setting direction but the bridge feeding across, its the main flow, when it backs all the way up its flow on past auto, in theory just having your one bridge going to something, then from bridge intake, pull off your bypass. As long as flow direction is controlled, 1 is all you need. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86721-little-oxygen-generator/page/2/#findComment-1022002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arash70 Posted April 1, 2018 Author Share Posted April 1, 2018 Very interesting, so the bridge always has priority over the ongoing lane, then when it becomes full, it bypasses to the main lane. Thanks @Kabrute Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86721-little-oxygen-generator/page/2/#findComment-1022077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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