Alucardx Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 I want to buy this game but first I want to know if this game is "finite" or ts like don't starve and you can have a megabase with renewable resources so your duplicants will never die. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/79228-is-oni-limited-or-finite/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merauder Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 For as far as I can tell, the game is infinite as of the current build, rather than either limited or finite. Infinite power can be gotten from Natural Gas Geysers. Infinite water can be gotten from Water Geysers. Those two resources can raise all the food and oxygen you'll need. Only things to look out for is how you'll handle your heat and your waste. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/79228-is-oni-limited-or-finite/#findComment-925739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Determination Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Its a challenge but infinite is possible, be prepared to eat alot of mud pies getting there though =o Even getting infinite food (seeds) is a challenge. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/79228-is-oni-limited-or-finite/#findComment-925838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilda Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 7 hours ago, Determination said: Even getting infinite food (seeds) is a challenge. Whut? Getting sleet wheat and PP is no challenge at all. And those are only seeds you need to care about after a while. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/79228-is-oni-limited-or-finite/#findComment-925952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merauder Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 I'm pretty new and I didn't think seeds were a challenge at all. My mealwood gave me excellent rating and more seeds before I even realized there was a rating system. Bristleblossom drops the seed to replant the blossom even with good rating, which is no challenge at all either. Sleet and the pepper plants are luxuries you don't need to worry about until you're properly established. Currently, I'm most worried about temperatures and figuring out a good electricity network. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/79228-is-oni-limited-or-finite/#findComment-926001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Determination Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 5 hours ago, Vilda said: And those are only seeds you need to care about after a while. Good point, I think you've made me realise I'm a diehard fan of mealwood =P Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/79228-is-oni-limited-or-finite/#findComment-926026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 45 minutes ago, Determination said: Good point, I think you've made me realise I'm a diehard fan of mealwood =P I still intend to use mealwoods planted naturally as a backup, but sleatwheat is just so darn easy it'd be foolish to overlook. The one thing that nobody seems to have mentioned is that your food expectation increases over time - so eventually frost buns and pepper bread just don't keep people happy Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/79228-is-oni-limited-or-finite/#findComment-926044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merauder Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 34 minutes ago, Lifegrow said: I still intend to use mealwoods planted naturally as a backup, but sleatwheat is just so darn easy it'd be foolish to overlook. The one thing that nobody seems to have mentioned is that your food expectation increases over time - so eventually frost buns and pepper bread just don't keep people happy What is the penalty for disregarding food expectations anyway? Just a little bit of added stress? I've already had my people complain, but it seems that as long as your decor and is good, nothing comes of it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/79228-is-oni-limited-or-finite/#findComment-926059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Lifegrow said: The one thing that nobody seems to have mentioned is that your food expectation increases over time - so eventually frost buns and pepper bread just don't keep people happy It seems to me the expectation growth is limited by 0 - cycle 692, all dupes' expectations are at zero. That means acceptable food is Gristle Berry, Pepper Bread, and Stuffed Berry. (BBQ can't be turned to regular food yet). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/79228-is-oni-limited-or-finite/#findComment-926065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 27 minutes ago, Kasuha said: It seems to me the expectation growth is limited by 0 - cycle 692, all dupes' expectations are at zero. That means acceptable food is Gristle Berry, Pepper Bread, and Stuffed Berry. (BBQ can't be turned to regular food yet). It does min(floor(ProfessionLevel / 5), 3). This is added to the natural -3 from being a duplicant (kinda spoilers). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/79228-is-oni-limited-or-finite/#findComment-926073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Risu said: It does min(floor(ProfessionLevel / 5), 3). This is added to the natural -3 from being a duplicant (kinda spoilers). Means the maximum is indeed 0. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/79228-is-oni-limited-or-finite/#findComment-926076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Yeah, cycle 700 on stream base and they're all zero here. Was more for the guys intending to survive forever with only mush bars Do either of you guys know the stress/cycle increase for poor food quality? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/79228-is-oni-limited-or-finite/#findComment-926078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Lifegrow said: Do either of you guys know the stress/cycle increase for poor food quality? Poor food is +10 stress/cycle. Good food is -20 stress/cycle. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/79228-is-oni-limited-or-finite/#findComment-926081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 29 minutes ago, Risu said: Poor food is +10 stress/cycle. Good food is -20 stress/cycle. Ahhh interesting - and the "Soul Food" buff ? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/79228-is-oni-limited-or-finite/#findComment-926092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEllimist Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Hmm so no more needing to rely on vomit/pee bases to last forever? That's good to know. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/79228-is-oni-limited-or-finite/#findComment-926093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, Lifegrow said: Ahhh interesting - and the "Soul Food" buff ? -2 Athletics -15 stress/cycle Should last a cycle. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/79228-is-oni-limited-or-finite/#findComment-926094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 1 minute ago, TheEllimist said: Hmm so no more needing to rely on vomit/pee bases to last forever? That's good to know. This hasn't been the case for a long time Just now, Risu said: -2 Athletics -15 Stress Should last a cycle. Ahhh nice - can't wait for some more bbq sources (mmmm bbq sauces) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/79228-is-oni-limited-or-finite/#findComment-926096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEllimist Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, Lifegrow said: This hasn't been the case for a long time I just never saw a water geyser I guess. I also had problems managing stress in my playthroughs so I ended up just saying "ok your all puke guys now". Then I also don't need to build beds, art etc. Seemed like easy mode to just be puking. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/79228-is-oni-limited-or-finite/#findComment-926098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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