FluxFaraday Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 So I noticed that tiles seem to always stay the same temperature that they were constructed at. I thought a cool way to exploit this would be to heat a bunch of igneous rock to 200C or so, and go make a serpentine path that would passively boil water. So, I dropped a load of rock into an insulated chamber with a hydrogen generator, sealed it up and turned it on. I was very excited as the rock heated the first couple of degrees. But then it stopped. Why? The air temperature keeps increasing; it's up to 300C or so now. But the rock stays a steady temperature (one stack is at 26C). I don't know whether to log this as a bug, or treat it as a mystery of the game's thermodynamics rules. Any thoughts? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/75545-heating-rocks-for-profit-and-mayhem/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Yeah. I tried that. It doesn't work. But really , it shouldn't. One tile is one qubic meter of material. You got any idea how long that would realistically take to heat just 1 degree with 8W heat output? See it doesn't matter what the temperature is but the heat output in Watts matters. You're much better of using batteries as the heat energy output density is higher. I think the biggest mistake of the game mechanics is trying to model physics too accurately in the modelling, and then completely ignoring it when it comes to machines in the game. For example, the electrolyzer is about 110,000-115,000 times more efficient than is actually physically possible. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/75545-heating-rocks-for-profit-and-mayhem/#findComment-879054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Profitz Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 It happens because while air trying to heat up blocks the tile they sitting on and probably sidewalls, if you have any, cooling it down. Try this experiment on abyssalite natural tile or at gas permeable tile, maybe it will work. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/75545-heating-rocks-for-profit-and-mayhem/#findComment-879058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluxFaraday Posted March 7, 2017 Author Share Posted March 7, 2017 6 hours ago, Saturnus said: ... to heat just 1 degree with 8W heat output? ... A long time, and I expected that. The point though, is that this worked for a little while. Slowly. Then it stopped. It's the stopping that is the strange thing. Our thermodynamics suggests that the air in the room would be heated by the machine and cooled by the rock. ONI's thermodynamics seem to disagree. I'm just wondering whether this is intended or a bug. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/75545-heating-rocks-for-profit-and-mayhem/#findComment-879202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboPhred Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 While the tile building always shows the same temperature, the material tile it actually creates does appear to handle heat transfer correctly. Try clicking on the tile until you select the material that is underneath it, it will show up as whatever material it was built out of. More info here: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/75545-heating-rocks-for-profit-and-mayhem/#findComment-879212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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