TMJJack Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I kind of wish it would take less swings of the machete to cut down bamboo and vines. Maybe four or five instead of six? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60578-hacking/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzisor Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 @TMJJack, hacking is a waste of time after a certain point in the game. Gold Shovel + ( Wildboar + Berry Farm or Monkeys ) = Hacking is waste of time. Simply shovel the bamboo/vines and replant/fertilize them. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60578-hacking/#findComment-695834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamApart Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 @TMJJack, hacking is a waste of time after a certain point in the game. Gold Shovel + ( Wildboar + Berry Farm or Monkeys ) = Hacking is waste of time. Simply shovel the bamboo/vines and replant/fertilize them. This shows why hacking should be tweaked - It doesn't make sense if it is the fact that digging & replanting is more efficient than hacking. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60578-hacking/#findComment-695841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatherKan Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 For grass and twigs, I use a mod for this called the "Scythe". Once built, it hacks down items in a flash. I'm awaiting further mods to do the same with bamboo/vines. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60578-hacking/#findComment-695846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamApart Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 For grass and twigs, I use a mod for this called the "Scythe". Once built, it hacks down items in a flash. I'm awaiting further mods to do the same with bamboo/vines. I think something like a scythe should be add to official. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60578-hacking/#findComment-695894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatherKan Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I think something like a scythe should be add to official. I agree. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60578-hacking/#findComment-695911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacost Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 The machete is too expensive and wears out ways too fast. I wouldn't mind some longer hacking animations but they drain your flint and gold resources insanly fast. So shoveling isn't only faster and easier it is even more efficient. ---> Klei (or Capy) Buff please! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60578-hacking/#findComment-695948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatherKan Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 The machete is too expensive and wears out ways too fast. I wouldn't mind some longer hacking animations but they drain your flint and gold resources insanly fast. So shoveling isn't faster and easier it is even more efficient. ---> Klei (or Capy) Buff please! Agreed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60578-hacking/#findComment-695967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzisor Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 @Lacost, actually, using a shovel is faster. 3 Actions versus 6 Actions; this time adds up over the lifespan of playing a single game. Dig -> Plant -> Fertilizer -> Reward | Requires: x2 Twigs, x2 Flint Basic Shovel or x4 Twigs, x2 Gold Golden Shovel, x1 Rot or Poop Hack -> Hack -> Hack -> Hack -> Hack -> Hack -> Reward | Requires: x1 Twig, x3 Flint Basic Machete or x4 Twigs, x2 Gold Golden Machete If the wikia is accurate, it states the Luxury(Golden) Machete has 400 uses and deals 34 damage. I'm sorry, but I'd rather use that as a weapon than a hacking instrument any day of the week. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60578-hacking/#findComment-695969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacost Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 @Lacost, actually, using a shovel is faster. 3 Actions versus 6 Actions; this time adds up over the lifespan of playing a single game. Whoops, there was an "only" missing. My bad! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60578-hacking/#findComment-695981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyPerfect Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I thought this was going to be a bit of a different subject matter given the title... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60578-hacking/#findComment-696035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledge Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I suppose they were trying to give us a realistic feel for hacking our way through impenetrable jungle. But I agree it doesn't make a lot of sense when you can scoop up any plant life in a trice with a shovel. I also can't for the life of me think why an axe which can fell a tree can't make any impression on bamboo... IRL a machete is constructed to give a smooth, swinging action as you walk along, while an axe is intended to be yielded while standing. It's not that it can't do the same job in terms of sharpness, it just has more weight for taking down the big stuff. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60578-hacking/#findComment-696051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkXero Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 What if bamboo/vines took 3 hits to hack instead of 6? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60578-hacking/#findComment-696059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMJJack Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 I thought this was going to be a bit of a different subject matter given the title...Lol I meant to do that. I was really hoping to catch a few people off guard. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60578-hacking/#findComment-696076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamApart Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I suppose they were trying to give us a realistic feel for hacking our way through impenetrable jungle. But I agree it doesn't make a lot of sense when you can scoop up any plant life in a trice with a shovel. I also can't for the life of me think why an axe which can fell a tree can't make any impression on bamboo... IRL a machete is constructed to give a smooth, swinging action as you walk along, while an axe is intended to be yielded while standing. It's not that it can't do the same job in terms of sharpness, it just has more weight for taking down the big stuff.IRL, the machete is supposed to be used to hack the bamboo, or vine with one single, charged cut, not currently chopping. The vines and bamboo are lighter in weight, so that not so steady as trees, that's why we need a machete instead of an axe: the axe is heavy and won't accelerate fast, while the machete could gain more velocity before the hitting the object so the object can be hacked in a single cut, instead. What if bamboo/vines took 3 hits to hack instead of 6?It make sense that it takes 3 hacks for a bamboo patch, because each bamboo patch has 3 bamboos. But I'd better like each hack loots one piece of bamboo, and so it's like. While, the vine, i think it would make sense if it require a single cut to hack. If this is OP, just spawn more yellow snakes to balance the game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60578-hacking/#findComment-696192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledge Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 IRL, the machete is supposed to be used to hack the bamboo, or vine with one single, charged cut, not currently chopping. It make sense that it takes 3 hacks for a bamboo patch, because each bamboo patch has 3 bamboos.But I'd better like each hack loots one piece of bamboo, and so it's like. Good point on the machete there. They won't give you multiple loot on the hacking because there is already plenty of bamboo, but I do like your logic and the illustrations Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60578-hacking/#findComment-696246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamApart Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Good point on the machete there. They won't give you multiple loot on the hacking because there is already plenty of bamboo, but I do like your logic and the illustrations They could make it work like mining, only the last hit gives you the rocks. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60578-hacking/#findComment-696302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkathorn Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Perhaps digging a plant could just give you the plant, and not the loot? But, while in your inventory, the appropriate tool could be used to harvest it? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60578-hacking/#findComment-696312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamApart Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Perhaps digging a plant could just give you the plant, and not the loot? But, while in your inventory, the appropriate tool could be used to harvest it? If so, it's better to make it diggable only after hacked, like the trees. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60578-hacking/#findComment-696333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkathorn Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 If so, it's better to make it diggable only after hacked, like the trees.But you could replant it, without harvesting. Also, that wouldn't make much sense (trees are huge, plants are lightweight). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60578-hacking/#findComment-696347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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